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Why do my solves average 80 moves?

Because you're using cfop, doing 2 look oll and pll, and probably not quite optimal f2l?
I'd need to see a breakdown of one of your solves to pin point it though... As if you expect someone to fully answer that without a solve breakdown -.-

Edit: Ninja-ed
Edit 2: LOL Jyh, we even used the same face -.-
 
I think I need to practice F2l from the wiki.

Scramble: F U' R2 D2 B2 D L2 R' F U F2 U D' F' R' F' L2 D B' F U' R' B R F


Cross: x D' F' U F R' F' D2 (7 moves)


F2L 1: U' y' R U R' U R U' R'(8 moves)


F2L 2: y' U' R U' R' L' U' L U' L' U L (11 moves) - I hate using L


F2L 3: R U' R' U' F' U F (7 moves)


F2L 4: U2 y R' U' R U2 R' U R (8 moves)


2 Look OLL:
U' f R U R' U' f' (7 moves)
U R' y M' R U R' U' L' U R x' (10 moves) - Seriously don't know where I learned that.


2 Look PLL:
y' U R' F R' B2 R F' R' B2 R2 (10 moves)
U' R U' R U R U R U' R' U' R2 U' (13 moves)



Total Moves:81 WTF!
 
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..well how about learning 2 look last layer instead of 4. Your F2L isn't exactly good but at least you can get 60ish move count solves if you learn 2look last layer. (I didn't go through your example solve, but heres how I would do it)

scramble: F U' R2 D2 B2 D L2 R' F U F2 U D' F' R' F' L2 D B' F U' R' B R F

z2 y (this cross sucks) L F2 D' F R D2 (6)
U2 L U' L' y' R U R' (7)
L' U2 L R' U R (6)
U L U' L' U2 L U' L (This next pair coming up I would do the rotation only because personally I am faster doing it this way, I could solve this pair in 7 moves if I chose to, but I do it slow) (8)
y' U' R U2 R' U y' R' U' R (8)
y S' L' U' L U L F' L' f (9 moves, yea I count slice as 1)
g perm (13 moves)

57 Moves. thats what I would have done in a real solve, yes i suck at f2l, but whatever. I did not check my solution, so if it doesn't work, actually watch the pieces and realize what I was going for
 
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! Is my f2l fast enough for sub 20.

13: 00:12.02 x
12: 00:12.66 x
11: 00:11.05 x
10: 00:11.96 x
9: 00:16.76 x
8: 00:13.62 x
7: 00:10.76 x
6: 00:11.63 x
5: 00:16.22 x
4: 00:10.70 x
3: 00:13.64 x
2: 00:12.53 x
1: 00:10.63 x

10 of 12: 00:12.61


What F2L speed do I need.
 
It's not like you have to have f2l be a certain speed to be sub20. You can have a 15 second f2l if you have a sub5 LL and still be sub20. Or you could have a 9 second f2l then suck and use 4LLL and be sup20.
 
It's not like you have to have f2l be a certain speed to be sub20. You can have a 15 second f2l if you have a sub5 LL and still be sub20. Or you could have a 9 second f2l then suck and use 4LLL and be sup20.

I think I might be the suck one.
 
If I learn all of the possible last two edges pairing algorithms for 5x5, will this help me improve a lot or if not learning all of them, which ones should I learn?
Currently, I only know the parity and the simple edge flip with the checkered side on the right. Thanks.
 
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