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One-Answer 3x3 Roux Question Thread
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If you want. Most roux solvers are at least somewhat color neutral. Most common are x2 and x2, y I believe. I personally am totally color neutral, but I suck at roux so that doesn't mean much. Whatever habit you set early on will be tough to break later, so you may want to just be totally color neutral since most people consider it to be better if you start off with it.
I think I will be somewhat color neutral. Thanks.
michaelcmelton
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Just starting with roux, I'm a 30-40 second solver with CFOP and continue to have dedicated practice to CFOP, but I was wondering with Roux, I have 2LCMLL down, and wanting to learn more of the "lookahead" so to speak for blcokbuilding. Whats the best way to do that?
TDM
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Slow solves is one of the best things you can do. Don't time yourself as much as you would with CFOP; go slowly and focus on, once you've seen one pair/block, looking for and tracking the next pair. You should try to avoid thinking about what you're currently solving.
relevant quote:
penguinz7
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sub20oneday
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i love h and z perms and doing l6e im sub 30 and im not sure if i should start using roux because im terrible at look ahead also how hard is it to get resources on it like algs guides etc
shadowslice e
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It's really not that hard. Go to Waffle's site and you'll essentially get all the stuff you need. I'm essentially sub-15 and my lookahead is pretty terrible anyway. All the algs are on Algdb and if you ever have questions just ask in the help and discussion thread.
Hello everyone.
Im just messing with Roux just to have an idea from the method.
I've solved the cube using the method about 3-4 times, but the 2 of them the last them was the permutation of the edges of the U layer and I did with the 2look pll algorithms I know from CFOP (I used the CW Edge 3-cycle and the CCW Edge from this pdf http://badmephisto.com/2LookPLL.pdf). Is it alright, I mean are there any special algorithms for the roux last step?
In another solve my last step was E2 M' E2 M from a site that I found through google that showed the state of my cube.
Im just messing with Roux just to have an idea from the method.
I've solved the cube using the method about 3-4 times, but the 2 of them the last them was the permutation of the edges of the U layer and I did with the 2look pll algorithms I know from CFOP (I used the CW Edge 3-cycle and the CCW Edge from this pdf http://badmephisto.com/2LookPLL.pdf). Is it alright, I mean are there any special algorithms for the roux last step?
In another solve my last step was E2 M' E2 M from a site that I found through google that showed the state of my cube.
shadowslice e
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There are no real special algorithms as the last step is intuitive. The only one you may need is dots which is the E2 M E2 M' you mentioned.
TDM
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There are four cases for the last step:
U2 M' U2 M
U2 M U2 M'
U2 M2 U2 M2
E2 M' E2 M
These are all commutators and are all intuitive, but I believe most people learn them as algorithms.
U2 M' U2 M
U2 M U2 M'
U2 M2 U2 M2
E2 M' E2 M
These are all commutators and are all intuitive, but I believe most people learn them as algorithms.
And what would you say the general steps are?
I guess from what I've read that they are the below:
one block in side
another in the opposite side
then solve the layers of the U layer, after that you check for highlights, if there are you go on, if not you apply the same algorithm as CFOP for not having headlights,
then you must count the bad egdes and apply one of the appropriate algorithms to solve them,
after that I think that whats next? you apply one the four algorithms TDM wrote?
Thanks for the answers
I guess from what I've read that they are the below:
one block in side
another in the opposite side
then solve the layers of the U layer, after that you check for highlights, if there are you go on, if not you apply the same algorithm as CFOP for not having headlights,
then you must count the bad egdes and apply one of the appropriate algorithms to solve them,
after that I think that whats next? you apply one the four algorithms TDM wrote?
Thanks for the answers
TDM
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For Roux?
1: solve a 1x2x3 block on the left side
2: solve a 1x2x3 block on the right side
3: solve the corners of the U layer. I don't know what you mean about headlights and CFOP here.
4a: orient edges
4b: solve UL and UR edges
4c: permute edges using the algorithms in my last post.
TDM
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I'd say Roux, definitely. Lower movecount, easier fingertricks, and (though some people will disagree with this last point) easier lookahead after FB.
guysensei1
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I'd disagree with this for FB. Too much weird stuff like B D F E U2 and whatnot
TDM
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True. I don't particularly like FB. But... I guess it's similar to cross, which also has bad fingertricks. It's slower than cross, definitely, but it's a small part of the solve so I don't think those first steps are much of a disadvantage to either method.
shadowslice e
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TDM
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Yeah, I learned from Waffo's site. Most of his algs are outdated, but I found it helpful for LSE.
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