guysensei1
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Not fully at least.. People know some useful cases here and there. And some people nearly know all the ZBLLs
Feliks I think.
Not me at least.
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Not fully at least.. People know some useful cases here and there. And some people nearly know all the ZBLLs
Feliks I think.
Not me at least.
PJKCuber
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Feliks isn't CN on 4x4, he's dual CN.
Future Cuber
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Cause he uses Yau .....
guysensei1
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Just because someone uses yau doesn't mean that they're dual CN.
U D R2 L2 U' D' B' U D R2 L2 U' D' is F! Should F be 13 moves? No. U is 1 move because they say it is. That's how a notation works.
TDM
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M is considered one move by pretty much everyone except FMCers.
U is not the same as S'+D'.
S is, again, only one move unless you use HTM (like in FMC).
Why wouldn't U be counted as one move? It's one move in every metric as far as I know...
No, he's colour neutral.
guysensei1
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I think he meant E (or E'?)
TDM
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What he thinks is S' is actually E, but even if you change that his post makes very little sense.
PJKCuber
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On 4x4? I am pretty sure he's dual CN on 4x4 because I have only seen him solve white or yellow.
PJKCuber
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On 4x4? I am pretty sure he's dual CN on 4x4 because I have only seen him solve white or yellow.
guysensei1
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I think he's attempting to do one of the 'prove 1=0' kind of things with HTM notation.
Probably, doubt any one uses it for speedsolving, though
Yes, Robert Yau being one of them
brian724080
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Because that's the definition.
yoinneroid
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too lazy to quote for questions, so I'll just throw all the answers here
because RLS is repetitive leg syndrome, lol, and somewhere along the way rowe found out that the whole (or most) of RLS algs are already found by mats, so they collaborate to create OLS, WV-style cases is named after mats as VLS, and SV-style cases is named after rowe, HLS
M is not 3 moves, at least not in HTM
and U = y' Dw, which is equal to E D, not S' D'
and if you write E D in an fmc paper instead of U, you will really get 3 moves
HTM consider centers as fixed, so M is L R' x' in regards to he fixed centers, rotation is 0 because it does not do anything to the cube state
I believe I read somewhere that a cuber memorized all the ZBLLs, too bad that person is not a speedcuber, but many people memorize easy random cases, and a few people were, or are still trying to memorize the whole set, and they have reached quite a significant number
Feliks is pretty much dual CN at 4x4 yau speedsolves
Robert Yau himself is CN at 4x4 yau though
a friend of mine played chess, too bad he is not active in the forum though
half of these can be easily searched through the forum, youtube and speedsolving, I have no idea why you guys aren't doing that instead
because RLS is repetitive leg syndrome, lol, and somewhere along the way rowe found out that the whole (or most) of RLS algs are already found by mats, so they collaborate to create OLS, WV-style cases is named after mats as VLS, and SV-style cases is named after rowe, HLS
M is not 3 moves, at least not in HTM
and U = y' Dw, which is equal to E D, not S' D'
and if you write E D in an fmc paper instead of U, you will really get 3 moves
HTM consider centers as fixed, so M is L R' x' in regards to he fixed centers, rotation is 0 because it does not do anything to the cube state
I believe I read somewhere that a cuber memorized all the ZBLLs, too bad that person is not a speedcuber, but many people memorize easy random cases, and a few people were, or are still trying to memorize the whole set, and they have reached quite a significant number
Feliks is pretty much dual CN at 4x4 yau speedsolves
Robert Yau himself is CN at 4x4 yau though
a friend of mine played chess, too bad he is not active in the forum though
half of these can be easily searched through the forum, youtube and speedsolving, I have no idea why you guys aren't doing that instead
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guysensei1
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Pretty sure you'll get DNF. (correct me if I'm wrong)
TDM
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Yeah sorry, I was wrong. I thought he was CN for everything, but he's dual CN for 4x4 (and probably all bigcubes then)
Yeah... but however hard it is to notice, there's always something wrong with them
yoinneroid
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wait, I meant E D, you are definitely right
Feliks it CN for the rest of the bigcubes
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Future Cuber
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Oooohhh yea....My bad....... thnx for pointing that out
Future Cuber
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Yeah... but however hard it is to notice, there's always something wrong with themYeah... but however hard it is to notice, there's always something wrong with them
[/QUOTE]This morning ....i asked a friend of mine to do any 1 move....then he does a M' ..i told his that M' is 2 moves
He the argued that M' is 2 moves then U is 3 moves ..........and the next thing when i get home ...post it on the forums
and thnx for clwaring that doubt
Future Cuber
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Consider two non-zero numbers x and y such that
x = y.
Then x2 = xy.
Subtract the same thing from both sides:
x2 - y2 = xy - y2.
Dividing by (x-y), obtain
x + y = y.
Since x = y, we see that
2 y = y.
Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero.
Subtracting 1 from both sides,
1 = 0.
That was jus 4 fun please dont debate on that
PJKCuber
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Are there +2's for BLD? If you forget to undo one setup move like U or D ?
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