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hey im new to cubing and know the beginers mehtoud i want to learn fredrich but it doesnt make sense to me if you could teach me over skype or something send me a pm plz
 
Spanky said:
hey im new to cubing and know the beginers mehtoud i want to learn fredrich but it doesnt make sense to me if you could teach me over skype or something send me a pm plz
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Which part of it doesn't make sense to you? Fridrich has a lot of parts:
Fridrich is a layer by layer method, generally it is like that: first we solve part of the first layer, then finish solving the first layer while solving the second layer, then we solve the last layer.
The steps look like that:

1. Create the cross as usual, just like in the beginners method. (Of course there are ways to improve creating the cross but they are not relevant right now).

2. Now instead of inserting the corners like in the beginners method, this time you first join a corner with it's corresponding edge (second layer edge), then insert them both at the same time. After you do that to all the corners, all the second layer edges will also be in place and by that you finish the first 2 layers.
Steps 1 and 2 are called F2L (which stands for First Two Layers), though most of the time the word F2L is used to refer to the solving of corners and edges together (step 2). This part is pretty intuitive, there are many tutorials on YouTube for that part, I recommend you watch badmephisto's tutorial, it's really easy to learn from it, he covers many cases and shows how to solve them. He will explain how everything works and why it works, so you don't just memorize algorithms.

3. After you have solved the first two layers, you now have to solve the last layer. In step 3 your orient the last layer pieces. Your goal is to have all the last layer pieces oriented correctly, they don't have to be positioned correctly, just oriented. This part is not intuitive at all and you will need to learn a lot of algorithms. This part is called OLL (Orientation of the last layer, I think).
What you do in this part is:
a) Look at the orientation of all the pieces in the last layer, you don't care which pieces they are, just how they are oriented.
b) Recognize the pattern they are making.
c) apply the algorithm you memorized according to the pattern.
There are if I remember correctly more than 40 OLL algorithms, learning them all is hard and it takes a lot of time. To lower the amount of algorithms, you should first learn 2-Look OLL, which means orienting the last layer pieces in 2 algorithms. First algorithm orients all the edges (There are 3 different algorithms for that), second algorithm orients all the corner (there are about 7 algorithms for that I think). 2-Look OLL is easy to learn because some of the algorithms you already know from the beginners method.
To find all the algorithms go to the speedsolving wiki, search for OLL or 2 Look OLL.

4. The final step is permuting the pieces of the last layer. After all the pieces have been oriented correctly in step 3, all you have to do now is place them in their correct place.
This step is very similar to the OLL step, it's called PLL (Permutation of the last layer), you look at the position of the pieces, recognize a pattern, apply the the algorithm you memorized according to the pattern.
Like OLL, you can find all the algorithms in the speedsolving wiki. You should learn them at a rate of about 1-2 a day, 3 MAX. You should practice every algorithm you learn a few times until you fully remember it without hesitating. If you learn them at big amounts in a short period of time you will likely forget many of them, be patient.
After this step the cube should be solved.

Now that you know what Fridrich is about, I'm sure you'll be able to find YouTube tutorials for each part you need, and I hope this helped you in understanding how it works.
 
Just put silicone on my rubik's brand 3x3x3

And it is fast, so fast, that i now have to learn some finger tricks so i can be able to use it's full potential. Any suggestions? i am hoping to make it down to sub minute by tuesday.

Any methods that would be fast? Currently just LBL, i am trying out F2L though, should be done by tommorow.
 
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Sorry man. It took me more time to learn 4ll friedrich than four days. I dont think you can get sub one layer by layer, either. Cubing takes patience.
 
piece popper said:
Sorry man. It took me more time to learn 4ll friedrich than four days. I dont think you can get sub one layer by layer, either. Cubing takes patience.
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Of course sub one layer by layer is possible. I believe people have done sub-15 layer by layer.
anyway, F2L is good, although your times may increase at first. For fingertricks, try to just watch some faster people, maybe in slow motion. But really, make up your own fingertricks from the basic stuff (like U-flicks with index finger).
Good luck!
 
Infernado said:
And it is fast, so fast, that i now have to learn some finger tricks so i can be able to use it's full potential. Any suggestions? i am hoping to make it down to sub minute by tuesday.

Any methods that would be fast? Currently just LBL, i am trying out F2L though, should be done by tommorow.
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Fridrich method is considered to be the fastest and is most widely used. Getting your times down to sub-60 in a short period of time and with a rubik's brand cube may be tough for you if not impossible.

Finger tricks, however, are something you can't "learn" or so, they mostly come naturally through practice. As someone said before then watching some faster solvers do it in slow motion may help but keep in mind that their finger tricks may not be the fastest for you.

It all boils down to practice, eventually.
 
Hermanio said:
Fridrich method is considered to be the fastest and is most widely used. Getting your times down to sub-60 in a short period of time and with a rubik's brand cube may be tough for you if not impossible.

Finger tricks, however, are something you can't "learn" or so, they mostly come naturally through practice. As someone said before then watching some faster solvers do it in slow motion may help but keep in mind that their finger tricks may not be the fastest for you.

It all boils down to practice, eventually.
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I disagree, bad habits come naturally through practice. Trying to look for special finger-tricky ways to do algorithms, learning ways to do frequent moves fast is something you should read and try to learn, and it doesn't come naturally.
For example, doing R' U R' really fast is something I learned by reading somewhere, it's done by placing the right hand index finger on the DBR corner and the right hand thumb on the UR edge, then while doing the R' turn you have to push with the index finger so even before you finish the first R' turn, the U turn will happen quickly and once it's done you continue to do the R' turn so you get R' U R' which feels like you did just an R2.
I personally would have never picked that up by myself just from practice, it's something I read which helped me a lot.
 
omer said:
I disagree, bad habits come naturally through practice. Trying to look for special finger-tricky ways to do algorithms, learning ways to do frequent moves fast is something you should read and try to learn, and it doesn't come naturally.
For example, doing R' U R' really fast is something I learned by reading somewhere, it's done by placing the right hand index finger on the DBR corner and the right hand thumb on the UR edge, then while doing the R' turn you have to push with the index finger so even before you finish the first R' turn, the U turn will happen quickly and once it's done you continue to do the R' turn so you get R' U R' which feels like you did just an R2.
I personally would have never picked that up by myself just from practice, it's something I read which helped me a lot.
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Well, yes, there are exceptions and that trick in particular which you mentioned is one of my favourites. I don't know about other cubers, but when I switched from beginner's method to Fridrich I started learning more algorithms. I practiced them and in the beginning I was sluggish. As time went on I figured out how to make my execution of the algorithms faster and started developing finger tricks by myself without the need to read some texts.
That fingertrick which is part of a PLL which moved 3 corners (pardon my crappy alg name knowledge) just... appeared. I have no idea how to explain it.

Well, I guess it's a matter of opinion like with most of the things in life. One thing's for sure though: fingertricks help a lot.
 
I tried to quote something, but I deleted the post because the quote only showed the text. How do you quote a quote to a certain comment?

Also, about the fingertricks. Whenever I do M', I push up in the middle with my ring finger. I also use that finger(from both hands) to do D or D'. I use my index fingers to do E, E', U, U', u, u'. You can use your hands for left and right moves, and back moves are your decision. Oh, and for OHing, you have to learn fingertricks. That is what I know that isnt subconcious only.
 
Okay, down to three days, and i know simple intuitive f2l, and i am down to the time i had before (about 1:30-2:00 and i know that is a big difference) so i will just have to practice different fingertrick for EVERY move i do.

If any of you know a method of speeding up that would almost definitely get me under a minute, i would have to work my butt off, but i could do it. ( i have about 30 hours to work with)
 
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Infernado said:
Okay, down to three days, and i know simple intuitive f2l, and i am down to the time i had before (about 1:30-2:00 and i know that is a big difference) so i will just have to practice different fingertrick for EVERY move i do.

If any of you know a method of speeding up that would almost definitely get me under a minute, i would have to work my butt off, but i could do it. ( i have about 30 hours to work with)
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I also started F2L with a 1:30 regular method average, maybe a bit less than that, but I got to less than a min after practicing F2L for a few days.
At first it seems like it's slower, but once you get used to the cases you start looking ahead, you recognize things faster and you think less, your times will go down very fast. Just keep on practicing.
Avoid cube rotations when possible (Try doing the cases you are familiar with from different positions, you'll see some of them are really easy to do without needing to rotate the cube to look at them the way you are used to, this way you insert a pair and can already start looking for the next one). If you think you have to do a cube rotation, instead of rotating the cube try to see and look if maybe you can do a Dw or Dw', it's like rotating the cube and the top layer.

Watch badmephisto's f2l tutorial if you haven't already, and watch tutorials on how to insert F2L pairs in special ways (after they have been connected, you'll be surprised by the number of ways you can put them in the slots).

To drop your times even more, learn 2-Look OLL (very easy to learn) and some of the PLLs.
 
Infernado said:
Okay, down to three days, and i know simple intuitive f2l, and i am down to the time i had before (about 1:30-2:00 and i know that is a big difference) so i will just have to practice different fingertrick for EVERY move i do.

If any of you know a method of speeding up that would almost definitely get me under a minute, i would have to work my butt off, but i could do it. ( i have about 30 hours to work with)
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So, if you have that much free time, then, well, learn 2-look oll and pll.
 
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