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If there is a tutorial, then It isn't really intuitive.
Intuitive means figuring it out yourself.

A tutorial would most likely just teach you algs, which would make it not intuitive.

What I want is tutorial to get me in the right thinking process of working it out. A tutorial like the one Badmephisto does in explaining F2l.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM

If any one does know an explanation video of learning intuitive ELL use Ms and Us turn then it would be greatly appreciate.

http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/ELL


Since the only response you got was about teraminxes I'll help you out. C4U makes the only gigaminx. The first version was terrible from what I've heard and the second version is better but still has some problems. I such at megaminx. I hate practicing it because I often spend ten seconds spinning it around waiting to find the piece I need. I'm not sure what your times would be but about 30 minutes is a good estimate I'd say. Assuming you can find your pieces haha

If you really enjoy megaminx then getting a gigaminx wouldn't be a bad idea. It's only going to be a waste of money if you don't ever use it.

The really new MF8 Gigaminx

http://sites.webec.com.hk/meffert2/index.cfm?fuseaction=detail&product=504
Limited edition. Don't know how much better it would be from a C4U
 
What I want is tutorial to get me in the right thinking process of working it out. A tutorial like the one Badmephisto does in explaining F2l.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xbcAMfWwM

If any one does know an explanation video of learning intuitive ELL use Ms and Us turn then it would be greatly appreciate.

http://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/ELL




The really new MF8 Gigaminx

http://sites.webec.com.hk/meffert2/index.cfm?fuseaction=detail&product=504
Limited edition. Don't know how much better it would be from a C4U

The last post on this page is the same question. The following posts help will lead you in the right direction, but there are no straight up tutorials that anyone knows about.
 
What I want is tutorial to get me in the right thinking process of working it out. A tutorial like the one Badmephisto does in explaining F2l.

I have one question, then maybe I can help.
Are you learning ELL for roux?

also, you can play around with M M' M2 U U' U2
and try to understand what is going on.

You could also learn a few actual ELL MU algs, and learn how they work, then alter/adapt them to other cases.
 
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I have one question, then maybe I can help.
Are you learning ELL for roux?

also, you can play around with M M' M2 U U' U2
and try to understand what is going on.

You could also learn a few actual ELL MU algs, and learn how they work, then alter/adapt them to other cases.

I'm learning it just for the sake of learning it and to improve my intuitive knowledge.
I have tried expermenting withs Us and Ms.
Also I'm not a roux user.

The last post on this page is the same question. The following posts help will lead you in the right direction, but there are no straight up tutorials that anyone knows about.

I know that because I posted that. I just didn't get an answer I like because there may not be one out there yet.
 
I'm learning it just for the sake of learning it and to improve my intuitive knowledge.
I have tried expermenting withs Us and Ms.
Also I'm not a roux user.

I know that because I posted that. I just didn't get an answer I like because there may not be one out there yet.

Since you seem to be desperate on finding a tutorial, why not make one yourself. The stepping stones have been laid out on the wiki ell page and on this thread. and better yet, the whole community would benefit from it

If you don't want to make a video, I'm sure Badmephito would help out if you gave him some material to work with
 
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I have one question, then maybe I can help.
Are you learning ELL for roux?

also, you can play around with M M' M2 U U' U2
and try to understand what is going on.

You could also learn a few actual ELL MU algs, and learn how they work, then alter/adapt them to other cases.
Or discover how they work.
You want to do Edge orientation, Solve both sides while preserving Edge orientation. Lastly permute M slice, the MU based U perm Makes sense once you start solving Opposite layers.
 
I just got my first 2x2 *cough*lanlanatlastXD*cough*. As I am new to it, I was wondering if doing something like using 3-corner cycles and corner twists Commutators are excessive moves? Thanks
 
LOL, I find pochman hysterical. He ticks people off in a way that no one else can.
Has he ever been banned?

As far as I am aware, Stefan has not even gotten an infraction before. I saw a post from him awhile back that he couldn't find his infractions list, and it turned out it was because he didnt have any. I don't know how he is so good at ticking people off without breaking the rules at all ;)

@hic0057, i would suggest actually starting messing with L6E of the Roux method, it could help you get a lot better at understanding <M,U> stuff
 
@dan- there is barely any lube in it at all. I put too much lubix, and cleaned it all off, and put like a dab on it.
I fixed it, it was the springs. One was more compressed. I compressed them all and the results were amazing.

@uber Yeah, I thought he didnt, cuz I remember him saying what infraction list. But I did not know if he was joking or not.
It was on one of the verdes/dayan threads.

Stefan said:
There are infraction lists? Where can I see mine? (Yeah I realize I might just not have any, but I'm curious anyway)

DavidWoner said:
There is an infractions tab on your user profile.

Stefan said:
Can't see one, neither in my profile nor my settings. Guess I really just don't have any.

So either he has mad skills at flaming without flaming. Or the mods respect him, and let him do it, and laugh when they read them.
 
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lol, i tried do do Nb instead by doing the other J perm, and it did a Y.

Considering how fast my J perms are, I might use my newly discovered Y perm instead.

Nb perms using J will be something like this

R' U' R U' (L U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R) U R' U R

also L' U' L U (L U' R' U L' U2 R U' R' U2 R) U' L' U L

similar to R U R' U (J perm) U' R U' R' Na perm

Figured them out yesterday myself


Also,even lightake is china based,right,so what should I go for between C4Y and lightake?

Check the Wiki.


Check the WCA Website.

But how will that help?
 
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