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hello, i just started to speed solve 4x4,
when i was learning 4x4 i still used the begginers method, and at that point you have 2 parities, the flipped edge and the 2 swapped corners, but when you use oll and pll you get a parity with witch 2 edges are swapped, yet while using oll and pll i dont seem to be getting the parity with the two swapped corners, is this normal or have i had a lot of lucky solves?
 
hello, i just started to speed solve 4x4,
when i was learning 4x4 i still used the begginers method, and at that point you have 2 parities, the flipped edge and the 2 swapped corners, but when you use oll and pll you get a parity with witch 2 edges are swapped, yet while using oll and pll i dont seem to be getting the parity with the two swapped corners, is this normal or have i had a lot of lucky solves?

The parity with the two swapped corners is the same parity as two swapped edges.
 
hello, i just started to speed solve 4x4,
when i was learning 4x4 i still used the begginers method, and at that point you have 2 parities, the flipped edge and the 2 swapped corners, but when you use oll and pll you get a parity with witch 2 edges are swapped, yet while using oll and pll i dont seem to be getting the parity with the two swapped corners, is this normal or have i had a lot of lucky solves?

There is a chance to get the swapped corners but for speedsolving you should just be able to recognize whether there is a PLL parity or not. Much like with OLL you just know that 1 edge is flipped you can easily see when the PLL needs a PLL parity algorithm. Ofcourse there is a single parity algorithm to solve the case where only diagonal corners are unsolved, but the regular Rw2 U2 Rw2 u2 Rw2 u2 U2 is much faster. The diagonal swap is for 'more advanced solvers' in general. You can reach sub 40 with 1 PLL parity algorithm.

Also ninja'd, sort of.
 
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ok so ive been solving for like 3 months now and my 3x3 times were at a consistent 36-37 seconds, but now my times range from between 32 and 41 seconds. whats up with that?!?????
 
ok so ive been solving for like 3 months now and my 3x3 times were at a consistent 36-37 seconds, but now my times range from between 32 and 41 seconds. whats up with that?!?????

Trying new stuff and messing it up?

Have you recently moved to full PLL, for example? Attempting to one look and failing can be significantly slower than successfully 2-looking.

The same can be said about any new bit of cubing technique - your times may slow slightly while you try to break old habits and replace them with better (but unfamiliar) techniques!
 
Guys, im new to speedcubing but i have learned f2l oll and pll. Currently i have almost learned 2- lookpll but not full oll and i'm having trouble 2- look pll. Can anyone explain this to me. Also list websites where i can learn full oll pll and coll.
 
Guys, im new to speedcubing but i have learned f2l oll and pll. Currently i have almost learned 2- lookpll but not full oll and i'm having trouble 2- look pll. Can anyone explain this to me. Also list websites where i can learn full oll pll and coll.

Please use The One Answer Question Thread in future, this is completely the wrong place.

Two look PLL
PLL
 
I know 23 OLL cases, should I go ahead and learn the rest asap or should I focus still on improving F2L lookahead? I'm currently sub 19 and sub 17 solves feel good but arent really that rare to me.

Also if the answer is yes what site/tutorial/list should I use for the best algs? I've used badmephisto for PLLs but I'm not sure if thats the way to go for OLLs too.

EDIT: Usually what makes a sub 18/17 solve is that I knew the OLL case.
 
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I know 23 OLL cases, should I go ahead and learn the rest asap or should I focus still on improving F2L lookahead? I'm currently sub 19 and sub 17 solves feel good but arent really that rare to me.

Also if the answer is yes what site/tutorial/list should I use for the best algs? I've used badmephisto for PLLs but I'm not sure if thats the way to go for OLLs too.

EDIT: Usually what makes a sub 18/17 solve is that I knew the OLL case.

Honestly you can't really "practice" lookahead I've found. Just learn OLL's you seem to get often, and keep doing solves. Lookahead comes with time.
 
Sorry, but I beg to differ. Yes, you CAN practice lookahead.

Can you please explain. I have been wondering this for awhile. How to specifically PRACTICE lookahead. I find that lots of advice is that it comes with time but then it is also said a lot that solving over and over doesn't help you learn anything new and that intentional PRACTICE is needed to improve weak areas. Even the "how to practice" thread mentions lookahead but not specific exercises. I am sure that the response is probably "slow down and lookahead" with probably more emphasis on the "slow down" part in reference to practicing, but any specific means you use to increase effeciency? Turbo-tracking is another one I know of but any others?
 
Can you please explain. I have been wondering this for awhile. How to specifically PRACTICE lookahead. I find that lots of advice is that it comes with time but then it is also said a lot that solving over and over doesn't help you learn anything new and that intentional PRACTICE is needed to improve weak areas. Even the "how to practice" thread mentions lookahead but not specific exercises. I am sure that the response is probably "slow down and lookahead" with probably more emphasis on the "slow down" part in reference to practicing, but any specific means you use to increase effeciency? Turbo-tracking is another one I know of but any others?

Using a metronome to force your turn speed down (raise the speed up when you can consistently solve F2L at the pace you have set.), spotting a pair and inserting it blindfolded until you can insert anything anywhere without looking and then looking anywhere else except at the pieces you are solving while you are inserting the pairs.

I've tried the metronome but how I see it is that the best way to exercise is to force yourself to look at anything but the pieces you are inserting.


Aaaanywhoo, a list of good OLL algorithms anyone? Anything better than what badmephisto has to offer?
 
Using a metronome to force your turn speed down (raise the speed up when you can consistently solve F2L at the pace you have set.), spotting a pair and inserting it blindfolded until you can insert anything anywhere without looking and then looking anywhere else except at the pieces you are solving while you are inserting the pairs.

I've tried the metronome but how I see it is that the best way to exercise is to force yourself to look at anything but the pieces you are inserting.


Aaaanywhoo, a list of good OLL algorithms anyone? Anything better than what badmephisto has to offer?

Thanks.

Because there are so many OLLs you don't want to waste time learning bad ones, so be selective. Use the wiki to find ones that work really well for your style. I like Brad Cottom's YouTube tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHIfbUTG2L5Fy6nq45W5saQ/videos) because he explains the recognition and executes the algs slowly and a bunch of times while showing the alg. Most of the ones he uses are pretty good but I always check the wiki to see if I like any others better before deciding which to focus on and learn before drilling.
 
Using a metronome to force your turn speed down (raise the speed up when you can consistently solve F2L at the pace you have set.), spotting a pair and inserting it blindfolded until you can insert anything anywhere without looking and then looking anywhere else except at the pieces you are solving while you are inserting the pairs.

I've tried the metronome but how I see it is that the best way to exercise is to force yourself to look at anything but the pieces you are inserting.


Aaaanywhoo, a list of good OLL algorithms anyone? Anything better than what badmephisto has to offer?

Actually Badmephisto has really good ones for the most part. That being said the first five results on the wiki are usually bound to have at least one good one.
 
Using a metronome to force your turn speed down (raise the speed up when you can consistently solve F2L at the pace you have set.), spotting a pair and inserting it blindfolded until you can insert anything anywhere without looking and then looking anywhere else except at the pieces you are solving while you are inserting the pairs.

I've tried the metronome but how I see it is that the best way to exercise is to force yourself to look at anything but the pieces you are inserting.


Aaaanywhoo, a list of good OLL algorithms anyone? Anything better than what badmephisto has to offer?

What skaterman said.

Also, Sarah Strong has a new(ish) website with some great OLL algs - http://sarah.cubing.net/3x3x3/oll

It also had funky transitions when you click on an OLL pic, if you get off on simple things like that? ;-)
 
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