The One-Answer Question Thread [closed]

[ben1996123]

Looks like he's asking for BLD algs.
Sorry Ben, but the algs you're asking for don't exist because of parity issues. You can't 2-cycle centers, you have to 3-cycle them. If you want to swap 2 wings, you have to swap 2 +-centers as well. And the T-perm ls even worse, you have to swap 2 +-centers and 2 x-centers in addition to the 2 corners and 2 midges.

Proof that I know pretty much nothing about BLD

 

[Rinfiyks]

Those algorithms don't exist. The reason the Niklas commutator is of order 3 is because it does a 3-cycle of centers. That fact becomes more apparent if you perform it on a supercube.
The reason that those algorithms don't exist is because you're asking for an algorithm that does an overall odd number of swaps. On cubes, it's simply impossible for only two pieces to be exchanged.

EDIT, AGAIN:
For some reason, I had it in my head that you were working with a supercube. I suppose there is an algorithm that does a swap of two indistinguishable centers and also swaps the two centers that are not solved. That can exist, it's an even number of swaps. But I'm not sure that's what you're looking for, I don't know what you're using this for.

Two corners can be swapped on a 2x2x2 :confused:

 

[Daniel Wu]

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I need a good alg to orient the cross in 2L OLL with OH.
I now use: F R U R' U' F'.
I saw a thread about it a while ago, but I can't find it anymore.

Was it this?

 

[Cyrus C.]

Those algorithms don't exist. The reason the Niklas commutator is of order 3 is because it does a 3-cycle of centers. That fact becomes more apparent if you perform it on a supercube.
The reason that those algorithms don't exist is because you're asking for an algorithm that does an overall odd number of swaps. On cubes, it's simply impossible for only two pieces to be exchanged.

EDIT, AGAIN:
For some reason, I had it in my head that you were working with a supercube. I suppose there is an algorithm that does a swap of two indistinguishable centers and also swaps the two centers that are not solved. That can exist, it's an even number of swaps. But I'm not sure that's what you're looking for, I don't know what you're using this for.

Two corners can be swapped on a 2x2x2 :confused:

Actually, 2 corners aren't being swapped. 3 corners are being swapped and it appears to be two. I think.

 

[mr. giggums]

U face

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F face

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an alg that swaps these 2 edges

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T perm, but only for middle edges (this alg dosent really matter)

Alg 1: U' r2 U' l2 U r2 U' l2 U2
Alg 2: r2 U' m2 U r2 U' m2 U
Alg 3: y r U2 r' U2 r' U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r2 F2 l'
I'm not not sure what you mean on the last one.

note: m2 is just the innermost layer.

 

[Deleted member 4527]

What's a good Master Magic tutorial for beginners?

and a restringing tutorial?

oh and why is WCA blocked in China? I heard it's cuz it listed Taiwan, HK and Macau separately. Pretty dumb IMO

 

[ottothedog]

What's a good Master Magic tutorial for beginners?

and a restringing tutorial?

oh and why is WCA blocked in China? I heard it's cuz it listed Taiwan, HK and Macau separately. Pretty dumb IMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8zLronn8AE
also watch his advanced version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOMzDRDPU9I
its the same as a normal magic just with an extra repeated middle step

i don't know about the last one

 

[Winball]

I use maru lube.
How long does it last?
It feels like I have to re-lube every week? :O

 

[vcuber13]

Alg 1: U' r2 U' l2 U r2 U' l2 U2
Alg 2: r2 U' m2 U r2 U' m2 U
Alg 3: y r U2 r' U2 r' U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r2 F2 l'
I'm not not sure what you mean on the last one.

note: m2 is just the innermost layer.

Alg 1, you cant switch just 2 centres.
Alg 2, thats not what he meant, and the one i posted is the best one.
Alg 3, he means switching UFR <-> UBR, and UL <-> UR, but for ur and ul only the main edges (not the wings).

 

[cuber952]

I use maru lube.
How long does it last?
It feels like I have to re-lube every week? :O

It doesnt last very long probably a week max.

 

[mr. giggums]

Alg 1: U' r2 U' l2 U r2 U' l2 U2
Alg 2: r2 U' m2 U r2 U' m2 U
Alg 3: y r U2 r' U2 r' U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r2 F2 l'
I'm not not sure what you mean on the last one.

note: m2 is just the innermost layer.

Alg 1, you cant switch just 2 centres.
Alg 2, thats not what he meant, and the one i posted is the best one.
Alg 3, he means switching UFR <-> UBR, and UL <-> UR, but for ur and ul only the main edges (not the wings).

Alg 1: not on a super cube but you can make it appear so on a normal 4x4.
Alg 2: is meant to swap to 5x5 + centers that he said he wanted on his first post.
Alg 3: this is what you thought alg 2 was.
Alg 4: This is the one I wasn't sure what he meant. you thought this was alg 3.

 

[ben1996123]

Alg 1: U' r2 U' l2 U r2 U' l2 U2
Alg 2: r2 U' m2 U r2 U' m2 U
Alg 3: y r U2 r' U2 r' U2 l U2 r' U2 r U2 F2 r2 F2 l'
I'm not not sure what you mean on the last one.

note: m2 is just the innermost layer.

Alg 1, you cant switch just 2 centres.
Alg 2, thats not what he meant, and the one i posted is the best one.
Alg 3, he means switching UFR <-> UBR, and UL <-> UR, but for ur and ul only the main edges (not the wings).

Alg 1: not on a super cube but you can make it appear so on a normal 4x4.
Alg 2: is meant to swap to 5x5 + centers that he said he wanted on his first post.
Alg 3: this is what you thought alg 2 was.
Alg 4: This is the one I wasn't sure what he meant. you thought this was alg 3.

I dont need these algs anymore, I found out how to do them with algs I already know.

 

[hawkmp4]

Those algorithms don't exist. The reason the Niklas commutator is of order 3 is because it does a 3-cycle of centers. That fact becomes more apparent if you perform it on a supercube.
The reason that those algorithms don't exist is because you're asking for an algorithm that does an overall odd number of swaps. On cubes, it's simply impossible for only two pieces to be exchanged.

EDIT, AGAIN:
For some reason, I had it in my head that you were working with a supercube. I suppose there is an algorithm that does a swap of two indistinguishable centers and also swaps the two centers that are not solved. That can exist, it's an even number of swaps. But I'm not sure that's what you're looking for, I don't know what you're using this for.

Two corners can be swapped on a 2x2x2 :confused:

Actually, 2 corners aren't being swapped. 3 corners are being swapped and it appears to be two. I think.

No, he's right- do a T perm on a solved 2x2. I didn't think about 2x2. I was thinking about 3x3 and larger.

 

[maggotcuber]

im goin to my first competition and my parents want to go with the whole family :/ so i was wondering if your parents went to competitions with you?

 

[Edward]

Those algorithms don't exist. The reason the Niklas commutator is of order 3 is because it does a 3-cycle of centers. That fact becomes more apparent if you perform it on a supercube.
The reason that those algorithms don't exist is because you're asking for an algorithm that does an overall odd number of swaps. On cubes, it's simply impossible for only two pieces to be exchanged.

EDIT, AGAIN:
For some reason, I had it in my head that you were working with a supercube. I suppose there is an algorithm that does a swap of two indistinguishable centers and also swaps the two centers that are not solved. That can exist, it's an even number of swaps. But I'm not sure that's what you're looking for, I don't know what you're using this for.

Two corners can be swapped on a 2x2x2 :confused:

Actually, 2 corners aren't being swapped. 3 corners are being swapped and it appears to be two. I think.

No, he's right- do a T perm on a solved 2x2. I didn't think about 2x2. I was thinking about 3x3 and larger.

4X4: Parity alg, then T-perm.

 

[mr. giggums]

Those algorithms don't exist. The reason the Niklas commutator is of order 3 is because it does a 3-cycle of centers. That fact becomes more apparent if you perform it on a supercube.
The reason that those algorithms don't exist is because you're asking for an algorithm that does an overall odd number of swaps. On cubes, it's simply impossible for only two pieces to be exchanged.

EDIT, AGAIN:
For some reason, I had it in my head that you were working with a supercube. I suppose there is an algorithm that does a swap of two indistinguishable centers and also swaps the two centers that are not solved. That can exist, it's an even number of swaps. But I'm not sure that's what you're looking for, I don't know what you're using this for.

Two corners can be swapped on a 2x2x2 :confused:

Actually, 2 corners aren't being swapped. 3 corners are being swapped and it appears to be two. I think.

No, he's right- do a T perm on a solved 2x2. I didn't think about 2x2. I was thinking about 3x3 and larger.

4X4: Parity alg, then T-perm.

That swaps centers too.

 

[Edward]

Those algorithms don't exist. The reason the Niklas commutator is of order 3 is because it does a 3-cycle of centers. That fact becomes more apparent if you perform it on a supercube.
The reason that those algorithms don't exist is because you're asking for an algorithm that does an overall odd number of swaps. On cubes, it's simply impossible for only two pieces to be exchanged.

EDIT, AGAIN:
For some reason, I had it in my head that you were working with a supercube. I suppose there is an algorithm that does a swap of two indistinguishable centers and also swaps the two centers that are not solved. That can exist, it's an even number of swaps. But I'm not sure that's what you're looking for, I don't know what you're using this for.

Two corners can be swapped on a 2x2x2 :confused:

Actually, 2 corners aren't being swapped. 3 corners are being swapped and it appears to be two. I think.

No, he's right- do a T perm on a solved 2x2. I didn't think about 2x2. I was thinking about 3x3 and larger.

4X4: Parity alg, then T-perm.

That swaps centers too.

It's does? :O
Excuse me then...

 

[Cyrus C.]

im goin to my first competition and my parents want to go with the whole family :/ so i was wondering if your parents went to competitions with you?

Usually at least one goes. My whole family has gone to all of the ones I've gone to, but only my mother is going to Nebraska with me.

 

[vcuber13]

mr gigumms, i believe your meaning "oll" parity and he is referring to "pll" parity.
anyway you can check on gabbasoft

 

[Edward]

mr gigumms, i believe your meaning "oll" parity and he is referring to "pll" parity.
anyway you can check on gabbasoft

Yeah I was talking about PLL parity. Does that change anything?