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I've heard that the qiyuan is better but as puzzles get bigger they get worse, especially even layered cubes. For this reason it may be a better idea to get the thunderclap 4x4 which is only 5 dollars more.
 
I'm wondering which one should I buy,
MoYu MoFang JiaoShi 4x4x4 MF4s
or
MoFangGe QiYi QiYuan S 4x4x4
I have a MoFangGe QiYi QiYuan S, and it pops in every solves. Its bad. I have heard that the MoYu MoFang JiaoShi 4x4x4 MF4s is not good either. Cornercutting is bad. I can't recommend either of these. If you are getting a budget 4x4, both are not great option.
The best budget 4x4 is Sheng Shou mr.M 4x4. It is cheaper and better than the thunderclap mini, and it is magnetic. You may also wait for the release of the yuxin little magic 4x4.
 
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I'm wondering which one should I buy,
MoYu MoFang JiaoShi 4x4x4 MF4s
or
MoFangGe QiYi QiYuan S 4x4x4
I have made a puzzle recommendation list on the other thread.
https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/which-cube-should-i-get-up-to-date-recommendations.70960/page-6
Speed Cubes Recommendation

Budget - Dirt Cheap Cubes only
Great - Pretty good and you won't have to sell your house
Expert - The best cube on the market

2x2 budget - YJ YuPo v2 M
2x2 great - YJMGC 2x2
2x2 expert - Valk 2 M

3x3 budget - Yuxin Kylin v2 M, YJ YuLong v2m
3x3 great - Yuxin Little Magic M, MF3RS3 M
3x3 expert - MoYu GTS 3 M, MoYu WRM, GAN 356 X, Yuxin HuangLong M, Valk 3 M, GAN Air SM, Valk 3 Power M

4x4 budget - Sheng Shou Mr.M
4x4 great - Sheng Shou Mr.M
4x4 expert - Valk 4 M

5x5 budget - Yuxin Cloud
5x5 great - Yuxin Little Magic M
5x5 expert - MoYu AoChuang GTS M

6x6 budget - Yuxin Little Magic, Cyclone Boys G6
6x6 great - MoYu AoShi GTS
6x6 expert - XMD Shadow M

7x7 budget - Cyclone Boys G7
7x7 great - XMD Spark
7x7 expert - XMD Spark M

Skewb budget - QiYi QiCheng, Cyclone Boys Magnetic
Skewb great - XMD Wingy
Skewb expert - MoYu AoYan M

Pyraminx budget - Z Magnetic (black)
Pyraminx great - Z Magnetic (black)
Pyraminx expert - XMD Bell

Megaminx budget - Yuxin Little Magic v2, QiYi QiHeng S
Megaminx great - YJMGC Megaminx, XMD Galaxy v2L
Megaminx expert - XMD Galaxy v2L M

Square-1 budget - QiYi QiFa, Yuxin Little Magic
Square-1 great - Yuxin Little Magic M
Square-1 expert - XMD Volt, Yuxin Little Magic M
 
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Most definitely, the 356X has features that no other cube has, that's the thing about GAN, they are always making something no one else makes. That is worth some price increase, and I think they market that very well. A lot of people complained about the price of the 356X when it was first released. Personally, I was pleasantly surprised. When I saw the first prototypes on YouTube, based on the prices of other GAN products at the time and the new features, I was guessing $70 or $80. So $60 was a nice price for me. I think a lot of times cubers forget how lucky they are that they have such a cheap hobby/sport. I've had a lot of hobbies before cubing(i.e. RC cars, Photography, Woodworking, etc.) and minimum prices for good equipment are hundreds of dollars.


However, based on the previous comments, I would be interested in seeing a stripped GAN 356X(i.e. No GES nuts or GMS capsules),
and selling the individual colors separately.
I've had a stripped 354m but the x won't strip because it has the numerical ipg

I think the same way, but there is a lot of innovation in it...
 
I know the Valk 4 is a very new cube and there is hardly any reviews on it but what do you think I should get? I want a fast cube. I know the Aosu GTS2M is fast but I'm not sure about the Valk 4.

ok bye
 
Most definitely, the 356X has features that no other cube has, that's the thing about GAN, they are always making something no one else makes. That is worth some price increase, and I think they market that very well. A lot of people complained about the price of the 356X when it was first released. Personally, I was pleasantly surprised. When I saw the first prototypes on YouTube, based on the prices of other GAN products at the time and the new features, I was guessing $70 or $80. So $60 was a nice price for me. I think a lot of times cubers forget how lucky they are that they have such a cheap hobby/sport. I've had a lot of hobbies before cubing(i.e. RC cars, Photography, Woodworking, etc.) and minimum prices for good equipment are hundreds of dollars.


However, based on the previous comments, I would be interested in seeing a stripped GAN 356X(i.e. No GES nuts or GMS capsules),
and selling the individual colors separately.


Not true. Moyu made the GTS3 spring system and the Gan developed it through their cube. Every manufacturer do it on each puzzle. By the way I wanted to post something like this but I don't know how to do it. :D
 
I dont want the WuQue, ok? I dont like messing with hardware.

Anyway the Valk 4 is better than the WuQue.
Why would QIYi release a new flagship if it isnt as good as something else?

Sorry if I came out as mean im just saying my opinion.
 
I like the AoSu GTS2M currently, but I haven't gotten to try the Valk 4. The AoSu v2 is really fast, while The Valk 4 has differing magnet strengths, making it more adaptable to more people's turning styles.
 
I like the AoSu GTS2M currently, but I haven't gotten to try the Valk 4. The AoSu v2 is really fast, while The Valk 4 has differing magnet strengths, making it more adaptable to more people's turning styles.
Cheers! So the Valk 4 is slower?

By the way I have a rough turning style.
 
Not true. Moyu made the GTS3 spring system and the Gan developed it through their cube.

I would suggest that GAN progressed their technology from their the previous GES system. I personally prefer their numerical IPG to the GTS3 tensioning system.(BTW, I used both cubes as my main for thousands and thousands of solves.) The Numerical IPG has more options than the Moyu tensioning system and is, in my opinion, easier to deal with, and if you don't have enough options for you can get the IPG v5.
 
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