[Help Thread] Puzzle Choice Thread

[mafergut]

I haven't tried the BoChuang, yet but the YuXin 5x5 is much more controllable than the CB 5x5. Definitely give it a shot if you find the CB a bit frustrating. The CB is great as a casual use cube but not very well suited to speedsolving, IMO.

I say BoChuang. A bit more controllable than Yuxin. The problem is if you see inaccurate at turning the BoChuang and Yuxin may have worse misalignment issues while the CB and new SS wind just lock up.

I have seen some reviews saying that the BoChuang is a bit slower than the Yuxin and also needs some breaking in, while the Yuxin is very good out of the box. I also like the bigger stickers in the BoChuang a little more but I'm considering the stickerless version so that might not be an issue.

Regarding misalignment, I think I know what you mean. I have seen in reviews the piece interlocking that can happen with both cubes when trying to force them and that definitely does not happen on my CB, it just locks up, as you say, so that's a bit of a concern for me. I also have to say that it happens when trying to force them at a double layer forward corner cutting angle that is far more than what the CB can ever do. But they clearly corner cut much more than my CB, that will only cut one cubie, while these two can easily cut almost two.

I would normally go with the Yuxin as it's at least as good or close to the Bochuang and cheaper but right now they are both about the same price at lightake so I thought I should better ask before deciding.

Thank you both for your help.

 

[rumarfer28]

Yuxin 5x5 or Moyu Bochuang? Also, is it worth it to buy one of these two to upgrade from a Cyclone Boys 5x5? The CB is quite nice but I lock up a lot with it, probably due to my inaccurate turning but also, I think, due to misalignment, as the outer layers are much faster than the inner ones.

Have you tried to lube the inner layers of your CB?. Without any lube its true that the outer layers are much faster than the inner ones, but only with 1-2 drops of lube (I use formula, but I guess maru would do the same or even better) the inner layers became as fast as the outer layers. Is not necessary to lube the outer layers because they are super fast. Doing only this, the cube becames much much better.

Playing with the tensions is very important too, because with the CB 5x5 a simple 1/4 of turn of the screws change the performance a lot.

 

[mafergut]

Have you tried to lube the inner layers of your CB?. Without any lube its true that the outer layers are much faster than the inner ones, but only with 1-2 drops of lube (I use formula, but I guess maru would do the same or even better) the inner layers became as fast as the outer layers. Is not necessary to lube the outer layers because they are super fast. Doing only this, the cube becames much much better.

Playing with the tensions is very important too, because with the CB 5x5 a simple 1/4 of turn of the screws change the performance a lot.

Thanks! I tried to adjust tensions. Just loosened it by 1/4 of a turn but it did not improve corner cutting, it just made the outer layers even faster and it did generate problems with "5x5 lockups" similar to what Yuxin has though not as severe. It took like 5-10 seconds to properly unlock the cube after one of those events so I tightened it again. I was thinking about lubing it with some silicone oil but I don't want to disassemble it so, I'm not sure.

 

[gateway cuber]

Can u pls tell me which is Better CYCLONE BOYS FEIWU OR CYCLONE BOYS XUANFENG AND WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM

Neither one is better than the other, but don't get a Cyclone boys 3x3. For $2 more you could get a thunderclap or a yuxin (a thunderclap is fast and clicky... almost like a re-vamped aolong v2. Meanwhile a yuxin is moderatley fast, heavy, and the smoothest cube out there.)

 

[gateway cuber]

RE: there is no good 2x2

So I don't really see a good choice for 2x2, however I will go with the Lingpo

Bro, there's a couple of nice 2x2s out there and the lingpo isn't one of them. Remember how locky the gans 356 was? yeah the lingpo locks even more... you should get a Tangpo, Wit 2, or a YuPo. But whatever you do, don't get a dayan (very slow, pops every other solve, and catchy) or a lingpo (somewhat slow and very locky).

 

[mafergut]

Bro, there's a couple of nice 2x2s out there and the lingpo isn't one of them. Remember how locky the gans 356 was? yeah the lingpo locks even more... you should get a Tangpo, Wit 2, or a YuPo. But whatever you do, don't get a dayan (very slow, pops every other solve, and catchy) or a lingpo (somewhat slow and very locky).

A well broken in Dayan, with some silicone oil lube and correct tensions is as good as it gets for a 2x2. Since I did all that to mine it has not popped once but I have to say that it's a bit tighter that I'd like it to. Forward corner cutting is almost 45%, so enough. Reverse is decent but not great, though. It's not slow at all (a bit too fast if you ask me, but that can be controlled with heavier lube) and it does not catch, like ever. It can lock up if you overshoot and it can't cut but that will happen with any cube. So, I'd recommend a Dayan.

I agree that the LingPo catches (I have one and I don't use it because of that) but I have heard the same of the TangPo and YuPo... and the new GuanPo too. So maybe the only other choice is the Wittwo, which you also mentioned but I don't own one so I cannot be sure.

 

[rajanreddy188]

I would recommend the Tanglong, it is very smooth, but not too fast. It is very controllable, and it is currently my main. I really enjoy it.

 

[TheFearlessPro]

lol tangpo or lingpo? what do ppl think

 

[Myachii]

Last year I posted a hell of a lot compared to now. I went to several competitions last year, but now I've switched to a more passive style of speedcubing, at least while I have exams going on. Not really bothered about times etc. and I'm currently using the MoYu Hualong.

The Hualong was the newest 3x3 when I stopped following the Speedcubing scene so to speak. In June I intend to buy a new speedstacks timer and also maybe a new 3x3, but I have no idea which 3x3 is the Aolong of today. Could someone explain some of the newer cubes and which is the most recommended?

 

[philipneri]

Howdy, I am a 30 second Roux solver. My current cube is a MoYu Hualong. I feel like my Hualong is a little too fast and uncontrollable for my turning speed/style. So I would like to something different. Do you think the QiYi Thunderclap would work well for me?

 

[mafergut]

Last year I posted a hell of a lot compared to now. I went to several competitions last year, but now I've switched to a more passive style of speedcubing, at least while I have exams going on. Not really bothered about times etc. and I'm currently using the MoYu Hualong.

The Hualong was the newest 3x3 when I stopped following the Speedcubing scene so to speak. In June I intend to buy a new speedstacks timer and also maybe a new 3x3, but I have no idea which 3x3 is the Aolong of today. Could someone explain some of the newer cubes and which is the most recommended?

The new Aolong would be the GuoGuan YueXaio, for sure

Howdy, I am a 30 second Roux solver. My current cube is a MoYu Hualong. I feel like my Hualong is a little too fast and uncontrollable for my turning speed/style. So I would like to something different. Do you think the QiYi Thunderclap would work well for me?

If you want something slower I'd recommend you to try a MoYu Tanglong.

 

[DajhMahal]

lol tangpo or lingpo? what do ppl think

Lingpo

 

[philipneri]

Howdy, I am a 30 second Roux solver. My current cube is a MoYu Hualong. I feel like my Hualong is a little too fast and uncontrollable for my turning speed/style. So I would like to something different. Do you think the QiYi Thunderclap would work well for me?

If you want something slower I'd recommend you to try a MoYu Tanglong.

Okay, sounds good. Any other people want to chime in before I make my purchase?

 

[ZZTrooper]

Okay, sounds good. Any other people want to chime in before I make my purchase?

If you have the choice between stickered and an unstickered Tanglong, definitely go for the stickered one. Moyu unstickered products are kinds notorious for being bad, and my Tanglong took like a thousand solves before it was good. Other than that, you really can't go wrong with it.

 

[dskids]

Okay, sounds good. Any other people want to chime in before I make my purchase?

Can't go wrong with a TangLong but to answer your original question I think a Thunderclap would be great. I have mine set up to be stable and a little on the slow side, myself.

But that being said, just about any cube on the market is slower than a HuaLong, at least mine anyway. Not sure what your HuaLong is like but mine is like stupid fast, like so fast it will U2 flick just from looking at it the wrong way.

 

[dskids]

I need some guidance on current 4x4's:

I've been practicing 4x4 a lot lately and currently use the AoSu as my main. I have a GuanSu but even though it is fast, it just locks too much. The AoSu has more flex and is a little more forgiving. Also have a YuXin 4x4 on order from cubezz.

Are the AoSu and YuXin still the "best" 4x4's on the market or are there any others I need to try out? For reference the biggest difficulty I have in 4x4 is locking from slight misalignment of the inner layers during solves, so any cube that mitigates that would be relevant to my interests.

 

[mafergut]

I need some guidance on current 4x4's:

I've been practicing 4x4 a lot lately and currently use the AoSu as my main. I have a GuanSu but even though it is fast, it just locks too much. The AoSu has more flex and is a little more forgiving. Also have a YuXin 4x4 on order from cubezz.

Are the AoSu and YuXin still the "best" 4x4's on the market or are there any others I need to try out? For reference the biggest difficulty I have in 4x4 is locking from slight misalignment of the inner layers during solves, so any cube that mitigates that would be relevant to my interests.

Wow! What you describe is exactly my experience with the YJ GuanSu. It is so fast and nice to turn, but it's too rigid and when not perfectly aligned it locks up, also due to its mediocre corner cutting (even though I loosened mine by 1/4 of a turn). Meanwhile my Aosu is so nice to turn, flexes a little and feels much more quality plastic but the fact is that it is too heavy to turn so, in the end my times are similar or even slightly better with the Guansu.

Conclusion: I decided to order a CB G4. It is not very expensive and many people say it's one if not the best 4x4 in the market, after some breaking in. I got it in stickerless because I love the bright colours of CB stickerless (I have a 2x2) but hate their dull stickers I'm still waiting for it to arrive but I have put high hopes on it. Don't know about the Yuxin, as I don't own one and have not heard much about it either. Hope this helps!

 

[ZZTrooper]

Wow! What you describe is exactly my experience with the YJ GuanSu. It is so fast and nice to turn, but it's too rigid and when not perfectly aligned it locks up, also due to its mediocre corner cutting (even though I loosened mine by 1/4 of a turn). Meanwhile my Aosu is so nice to turn, flexes a little and feels much more quality plastic but the fact is that it is too heavy to turn so, in the end my times are similar or even slightly better with the Guansu.

Conclusion: I decided to order a CB G4. It is not very expensive and many people say it's one if not the best 4x4 in the market, after some breaking in. I got it in stickerless because I love the bright colours of CB stickerless (I have a 2x2) but hate their dull stickers I'm still waiting for it to arrive but I have put high hopes on it. Don't know about the Yuxin, as I don't own one and have not heard much about it either. Hope this helps!

The CB G4 uses a different, less bright stickerless colour scheme because many people didn't like how the red and the orange contrasted. The scheme is nice and has good contrast, but it is not as blindingly bright. After breaking it in, it is a bit slower than my friend's stickerless yuxin, but feels more stable and definitely less catching.

 

[mafergut]

The CB G4 uses a different, less bright stickerless colour scheme because many people didn't like hoy the red and the orange contrasted. The scheme is nice and has good contrast, but it is not as blindingly bright. After breaking it in, it is a bit slower than my friend's stickerless yuxin, but feels more stable and definitely less catching.

Thanks for the info on the stickerless shades. I guess if it has good contrast I will be fine with it. Also interesting what you say about stability and (non)catchiness. Those are two properties I love in a cube so I think my CB and I will become good friends

 

[dskids]

Wow! What you describe is exactly my experience with the YJ GuanSu. It is so fast and nice to turn, but it's too rigid and when not perfectly aligned it locks up, also due to its mediocre corner cutting (even though I loosened mine by 1/4 of a turn). Meanwhile my Aosu is so nice to turn, flexes a little and feels much more quality plastic but the fact is that it is too heavy to turn so, in the end my times are similar or even slightly better with the Guansu.

Conclusion: I decided to order a CB G4. It is not very expensive and many people say it's one if not the best 4x4 in the market, after some breaking in. I got it in stickerless because I love the bright colours of CB stickerless (I have a 2x2) but hate their dull stickers I'm still waiting for it to arrive but I have put high hopes on it. Don't know about the Yuxin, as I don't own one and have not heard much about it either. Hope this helps!

Thanks for the response. Yeah, my experience with AoSu vs. GuanSu is the same as yours although I haven't compared times between them yet. I might give the CB 4x4 a shot then. I don't like stickerless very much but it seems with the CB, most people are going with that version. All my other 4x4's will be black/stickered so maybe one stickerless couldn't hurt...

ALSO, Cubicle now has new batch MeiYu's out.... anyone have experience with the updated MeiYu or are opinions still colored by the first batch mishap?