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Tom Joad

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Solving the green orange pair in the back (the corner is upper front left at the moment)

I just U2 then RU’R’ to pair them up, then I rotate and insert.

Is there any more efficient way to do this case?

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Which one is the best set for learning and what you need to learn to have like 5 seconds on F2L(which algorithms).Algorithm F2l pair in all sides(learn?)
 
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Llewelys

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I'm not the best to answer this since F2L takes me like 10 seconds, but I'd say you need to know how the cube works extremely well to achieve 5 sec F2L.
By this I mean that you should know several ways to solve each pair, because solving that pair with alg #1 will make the following pair a bad case, but if you solve it with alg #2 then it'll give you a 3 mover.
Something like that.
Or if you have two pairs, knowing which one to do first so you don't end up with a sucky case for the other one.

Basically knowing how every algorithm affects the cube.
 
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I'm not the best to answer this since F2L takes me like 10 seconds, but I'd say you need to know how the cube works extremely well to achieve 5 sec F2L.
By this I mean that you should know several ways to solve each pair, because solving that pair with alg #1 will make the following pair a bad case, but if you solve it with alg #2 then it'll give you a 3 mover.
Something like that.
Or if you have two pairs, knowing which one to do first so you don't end up with a sucky case for the other one.

Basically knowing how every algorithm affects the cube.
Yes maybe i need to learn how to do case in all 4 angles?:https://www.cubeskills.com/tutorials/f2l-algorithms-different-slot-positions
 

stilloutthere

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Having read that most of the megaminx solutions are F2L I'm wondering if it will assist my 3x3 solving?

I am new to speedcubing and just learning F2L intuitively now after the beginners method. Already have 2 look OLL and 2 look PLL down so it's really just drilling cross and F2L for the moment.

And looking for a good excuse to get another puzzle
 

kadabrium

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on megaminx its mainly about setting up pieces far apart into easy f2l cases instead of working with what cases you are given on a 3x3
 
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Well, Megaminx is just a more layered 3x3, so it may, but your hands will feel awkward after 10-15 solves on the Megaminx.

Edit: I just read you learned beginner Cfop, So good luck in your cubing career!
 

TheLegend12

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Personally, I am not great at megaminx but I feel that it is the other way around. The faster that you are at 3x3 then the faster you will be at Mega. Look at Phillip Lewicki for example. He is world-class at three by three and also world class at mega.
 

fortissim2

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Ever since I saw Feliks' 3.41 single, I became very interested on inserting pairs with Fw.
I found that these algs are very useful for pairs that you usually need to rotate for RU-gen insert:

Fw R' Fw'
Fw R Fw'

Are they useful to learn for an almost sub-12 cuber?
 

SenorJuan

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It's worth adding that their rotationless nature means they are useful if you're trying to insert rear slots first, to make the last two slots easier/better lookahead.
It's not relevant in the case of Feliks' solve, as it WAS the last slot, and I personally would've chosen to rotate y and solve the front-right slot. [ but I'm not that hot, and save the fancy inserts for FMC ]
 

Mischiiii

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Im currently averaging about 50sec and I’m currently focusing on F2L and color neutrality.



My biggest problem is which case i should use and if i need to rotate.

Case 1: R U R’ inserts with white on the side and different colors on top.

Case 2: white on the side and same colors on top.

Case 3: white on top.



For me case 3 is the most easy case to recognize. If the side color of the edge is left or right i don’t have to rotate and can just orient the edge to match the side color turn it away from it’s slot and put the corner on top. I use it always when white is already on the top face.



For case 1 or 2 i most of the time get confused on which one to use and if i should rotate. Especially if one piece is in slot.



For what should i look when i need to decide what case to use?



Maybe it’ll help to hear how you guys decide (intuitively) which case to use and what clues to look for that tell you if you need to rotate (like i described in case 3).



Thank you :)
 
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