[Help Thread] CFOP Discussion

[TheFearlessPro]

my pb ao 5 is now 19.23 and my ao12 pb is 29.58




got a 15.99 monday

 

[HydraBoss]

I am currently a relatively new cuber with an avarage of 30-40 seconds using cfop with 4lll-does anyone know what areas I should try to work on getting faster with? I usually solve the f2l in 20 seconds and the last layer in around ten seconds if that helps. Thanks!

 

[Kyle3909]

I am currently a relatively new cuber with an avarage of 30-40 seconds using cfop with 4lll-does anyone know what areas I should try to work on getting faster with? I usually solve the f2l in 20 seconds and the last layer in around ten seconds if that helps. Thanks!

I'm not the best. I can offer some help though. I would just practice more and work on getting my cross time down. If you do this then you could shave off a few seconds and then you can fully focus on looking ahead/ the rest of CFOP. Do this and after the cross just move on to the next steps in CFOP. (F2L, 4LLL) Just continue practicing. Get your cross time down, move to the next step, and work on getting better at what you already know. This will drop your times by a few seconds. It depends on how much work you put in. Hope this helps.

 

[obelisk477]

Post a video either here or in the solve critique thread so we can see how to help you better. Don't post a good average (like most people do), post an *average* average, so we can see what some flaws might be, as well as what you're good at.

 

[mark49152]

using cfop with 4lll-does anyone know what areas I should try to work on getting faster with?

You answered your own question there. Work towards full PLL then OLL. Of course you should work on the other stages at the same time, and others may say those are more important, but learning LL algs is a straightforward and obvious way to improve and it's lazy not to. Plus, the earlier you learn them, the more practice you give them.

 

[HydraBoss]

Work towards full PLL then OLL.

I am actually trying to learn COLL (corner orient last layer), but i am having a hard time learning it, so i will try learning 2lll also.

 

[Drad]

I am actually trying to learn COLL (corner orient last layer), but i am having a hard time learning it, so i will try learning 2lll also.

Don't learn subsets till you learn full oll and pll also work on lookahead cyothekings tutorial was helpful.

 

[HydraBoss]

thanks for the advice!

 

[TheSpeedCuber890]

I average 22.32 seconds on 3x3 ( unofficially), and I am looking to get sub 20.

My cross can be done in around 5 seconds, My F2L can be done in 10-15 seconds and LL takes about 5. People say you just need to look ahead, but what is Look Ahead?

Any tips on getting sub 20?

Thanks

 

[LostGent]

This should help you understand. Practice is key though!

 

[TheSpeedCuber890]

Is lookahead the only reason why I'm not sub 20.

 

[shadowslice e]

Is lookahead the only reason why I'm not sub 20.

Probably

 

[mafergut]

Is lookahead the only reason why I'm not sub 20.

If you explain a bit about what method you use, whether you do full OLL/PLL (or CMLL if you do Roux), you average splits, etc. feedback will be more specific also but I agree that, most probably lookahead is at least one of the reasons, likely the most important reason.

 

[TheSpeedCuber890]

Thanks

If you explain a bit about what method you use, whether you do full OLL/PLL (or CMLL if you do Roux), you average splits, etc. feedback will be more specific also but I agree that, most probably lookahead is at least one of the reasons, likely the most important reason.

 

[shadowslice e]

If anyone want to ask questions, it may be a good idea to look through this first.

 

[Lazarus Holl]

Generated By csTimer on 2016-7-2
avg of 12: 27.281

Time List:
1. 26.953 D' F2 L D2 R' F2 D2 R2 F2 R' U F' R2 D F2 D2 R' B D'
2. 27.105 R D2 L' F2 L' B2 D2 L' B2 U2 L' F L D B' U2 R F' R2 D' R
3. 23.519 D2 B2 L2 B U2 F2 L2 D2 F2 R2 U2 L' D' L2 D2 L U2 B2 D' F' L2
4. (36.250) D B D2 B2 D2 L2 D2 B' L2 B R2 U2 D F' L R B U' R F2 D
5. 26.841 B2 D' L2 R2 B2 U L2 R2 D L2 D' F R' F' R F L' F' U R B'
6. 29.010 F' L2 F' B2 L2 D' R' B' R2 U' R2 B2 U2 B2 U2 D L
7. 23.351 F2 D' R2 U' L2 B L2 B F2 D2 R' L' B2 R' F2 U2 R U'
8. 31.433 U2 B2 F2 R2 D R2 F2 U2 F2 U2 F' R' D2 B2 L B2 L B'
9. 28.449 R L2 U2 B2 D2 F2 U' R2 D' F2 R' B' R2 F U2 F L R2
10. (19.289) D' L2 R' F2 L2 B2 D2 L B2 L' B2 R' F' L2 R' B2 U2 B D' U2
11. 22.913 R' B' U2 D' R2 B R2 U R' D2 B2 R' F2 R U2 L' U2 R' U2
12. 33.234 R D' R2 D2 U' B2 L F' L' D B R' F L' F'



That is the time list, I 2 look oll and know most PLLS, and know all F2L cases and can perform them without looking in under 2-3 sec. Any suggestions to get faster?

 

[shadowslice e]

Generated By csTimer on 2016-7-2
avg of 12: 27.281

Time List:
1. 26.953 D' F2 L D2 R' F2 D2 R2 F2 R' U F' R2 D F2 D2 R' B D'
2. 27.105 R D2 L' F2 L' B2 D2 L' B2 U2 L' F L D B' U2 R F' R2 D' R
3. 23.519 D2 B2 L2 B U2 F2 L2 D2 F2 R2 U2 L' D' L2 D2 L U2 B2 D' F' L2
4. (36.250) D B D2 B2 D2 L2 D2 B' L2 B R2 U2 D F' L R B U' R F2 D
5. 26.841 B2 D' L2 R2 B2 U L2 R2 D L2 D' F R' F' R F L' F' U R B'
6. 29.010 F' L2 F' B2 L2 D' R' B' R2 U' R2 B2 U2 B2 U2 D L
7. 23.351 F2 D' R2 U' L2 B L2 B F2 D2 R' L' B2 R' F2 U2 R U'
8. 31.433 U2 B2 F2 R2 D R2 F2 U2 F2 U2 F' R' D2 B2 L B2 L B'
9. 28.449 R L2 U2 B2 D2 F2 U' R2 D' F2 R' B' R2 F U2 F L R2
10. (19.289) D' L2 R' F2 L2 B2 D2 L B2 L' B2 R' F' L2 R' B2 U2 B D' U2
11. 22.913 R' B' U2 D' R2 B R2 U R' D2 B2 R' F2 R U2 L' U2 R' U2
12. 33.234 R D' R2 D2 U' B2 L F' L' D B R' F L' F'



That is the time list, I 2 look oll and know most PLLS, and know all F2L cases and can perform them without looking in under 2-3 sec. Any suggestions to get faster?

finish learning PLL, work on lookahead.

Can't be anymore specific than that without a video.

 

[Nick S]

I've been cubing for over a year now, and after a while I learned CFOP with 2-Look OLL and PLL. But, my solves haven't improved at all compared to using the beginner method. I still ao12 at 1:04.95 with CFOP. Any ideas on why I am so slow? Thanks!

 

[sqAree]

I think here it could be interesting to see an example solve of you, either a video or a reconstruction.

 

[Nick S]

I think here it could be interesting to see an example solve of you, either a video or a reconstruction.

I'll record a video in a few minutes.

I think here it could be interesting to see an example solve of you, either a video or a reconstruction.

I can't upload videos. Want me to Email it or something?