[Help Thread] CFOP Discussion

Weird Cuber said:
I also have only been cubing for about 3.5 months.
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Well, most people would get from sub 25 to sub 20 in two months, not overall two months. That's really good, two days is much better than two months... It took me like a couple of years, because I got to 25 and just stopped for some years. (Back in them Zhanchi days with Lubix...ah nostalgia [Shh... don't talk to me about F2s I don't care about them])
 
MoyuFTW said:
Well, most people would get from sub 25 to sub 20 in two months, not overall two months. That's really good, two days is much better than two months... It took me like a couple of years, because I got to 25 and just stopped for some years. (Back in them Zhanchi days with Lubix...ah nostalgia [Shh... don't talk to me about F2s I don't care about them])
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Well everyone at comps think I am progressing faster than normal. My cube right now is kind of gummy because I lost my maru (thunderclap).
 
Alright now I average anywhere from 25 - 35 secs using 4lll and lbl. Time to learn Full pll or intuitive f2l, which first? What time should my LL be with 4lll and full pll?
 
TheFearlessPro said:
Alright now I average anywhere from 25 - 35 secs using 4lll and lbl. Time to learn Full pll or intuitive f2l, which first? What time should my LL be with 4lll and full pll?
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You should definitely be using intuitive F2L at this point. Normally a cuber would start learning full PLL at your level but they would already have been using F2L for a long time. Get a handle on F2L first and once it's fairly solid you can start learning PLLs.
 
PurpleBanana said:
You should definitely be using intuitive F2L at this point. Normally a cuber would start learning full PLL at your level but they would already have been using F2L for a long time. Get a handle on F2L first and once it's fairly solid you can start learning PLLs.
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kk xd. atm I can do f2l below 25 seconds consistently with cross, along with a 11 sec LL. So yeh pretty decent. I'm gonna start using f2l in all my solves now. Is there any point in time (what markers) should I use to know when to start full pll?
 
alright, im back after about 6 days. I've incorporated f2l in all my solves, and I have gotten 2 sub-20s (19.96 and 19.43) and I now average sub-35 consistently (anywhere from 20-35) So yeh. Is now the time to learn full pll? and which video would you recommend? I learn better thru videos so pll in a vid would be awesome!
 
TheFearlessPro said:
alright, im back after about 6 days. I've incorporated f2l in all my solves, and I have gotten 2 sub-20s (19.96 and 19.43) and I now average sub-35 consistently (anywhere from 20-35) So yeh. Is now the time to learn full pll? and which video would you recommend? I learn better thru videos so pll in a vid would be awesome!
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Yes you should start learning full pll here is a video :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpx8NU4J-WI
 
I typed up a whole reply but I was logged out before and i lost it -.-. Ok basically, I've switched to f2l now and I have gotten 4 sub-20s ( 17.86 being my pb). I feel like I'm missing something in f2l. I have no pauses( except the cross-f2l transition, I need help with that )
Quick break down of a solve to check what to work on
Scramble:D2 B' R2 D2 B2 F U2 F' R2 F2 D' B L D R D2 U' L2 U' R
Cross:4.5 seconds
F2L:11 seconds ( free pair so kinda lucky, most times f2l takes 13-15)
OLL:4.7 seconds ( decent for 2-look )
PLL:5.2 (decent for 2-look )
Over all, it's a pretty good solve. I still need to learn one more oll alg (yeh ik im lazy, didn't even learn all the algs for 4lll)I got the case so I did an alternate alg I knew would work. In total it comes up 25.4 around.. So yeh what can I work on? LL?
 
Ok, so I see my problem. My cross is taking 7 seconds! As far as my f2l goes, it looks quite good. I will need practice ofc in f2l, and I will need to learn all the plls. So far I've covered the Aa perm, Ab Perm, E perm, Ua and Ub perm, H perm, Z Perm, Jb perm, T perm, Y perm. So all in all 10 algs covered! My execution on some aren't the best :P. So anyway, what videos are there that can help me in my cross. I just can't seem to do it move efficiently so it takes me this long. I can still do it bld tho so... ??
 
TheFearlessPro said:
Ok, so I see my problem. My cross is taking 7 seconds! As far as my f2l goes, it looks quite good. I will need practice ofc in f2l, and I will need to learn all the plls. So far I've covered the Aa perm, Ab Perm, E perm, Ua and Ub perm, H perm, Z Perm, Jb perm, T perm, Y perm. So all in all 10 algs covered! My execution on some aren't the best :p. So anyway, what videos are there that can help me in my cross. I just can't seem to do it move efficiently so it takes me this long. I can still do it bld tho so... ??
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Badmephisto's videos on the cross are very good. http://badmephisto.com/cross.php

I learned a bunch of helpful info from him.
 
So I feel like im getting better and better. the floodgates to sub-20s are opening, im getting more and more of em by the day. I feel soon after even more practice I will average sub-20! Happened samething with sub-30 :P. three sub-19s today and yesterday combined! :D
 
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