The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[TerryD]

The corner's supposed to go in the same way as an x-cross, would that still count as 3 step lsll?

i would probably count it as a 2.5 step/look lsll, you can plan cross+1 corner in inspection but that takes away from planning other things

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

What exactly is solved right before you do your ELS thing?

After the x-cross-corner-thing, you do the 3 pairs that you can do, then the CLS thing then the ZZLL thing

 

[OreKehStrah]

After the x-cross-corner-thing, you do the 3 pairs that you can do, then the CLS thing then the ZZLL thing

I think it would be better to just do an XCross then. If you ignore the edge that gets put with the corner you might trap an F2L edge. Also, you would have to keep in mind the orientation of the edge that the corner goes with. You could end up with some nasty cases in terms of algs if you have nonoriented edges in that slot. IDK if you've made any algs for this or not, but there's a pretty good chance some of the algs are gonna be pretty ugly.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

I haven't made any algs, since the thing was only a concept, but I do plan on making some. If I could create a variant of ELS that goes in the Second last slot, then I could just do a winter variation and then PLL.

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

@TheSlykrCubr “the ZZLL thing” is called L4C

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

ok thanks

 

[ribbon method]

Ok now tell me the new steps of ur method

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

1) Cross + 2 Corners. This is to give you more freedom and if you break up one, it's not the end of the world. You could just do it with one corner.

2) 3 F2L Pair

3) CLS undeveloped variant

4) L4C as I now know it's called.

 

[ribbon method]

Could u do a begginer variant

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

1) Cross + 2 Corners.

2) 3 F2L Pair

3) ELS

4) OCLL

5) PLL

 

[ribbon method]

That seems better to me

 

[PetrusQuber]

1) Cross + 2 Corners.

2) 3 F2L Pair

3) ELS

4) OCLL

5) PLL

That seems better to me

It’s an extra step.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

maybe I could just make a vhls variant that permutes only 2 edges and then do zzll

 

[Username: Username:]

maybe I could just make a vhls variant that permutes only 2 edges and then do zzll

That's phasing bud.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

yea but sans zz

 

[Username: Username:]

yea but sans zz

you mean like without EO? I think it would be worse.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

I'll generate some algorithms later and see how long it would take to do

 

[AlphaCuber is awesome]

Why would anyone do this when they could just do ZZ-B which is almost certainly faster?

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

people like me who aren't good at eo steps

 

[AlphaCuber is awesome]

people like me who aren't good at eo steps

then you need to practice your EO steps.