# The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

If i may

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1x2x3 left block

last 3 pairs

hkcll

l5e

#### PapaSmurf

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Do you mean last 2 pairs? Still, is probably worse than HK.
by develop i mean gen algs
All the algs to gen are in that post.

#### TheSlykrCubr

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Do you mean last 2 pairs? Still, is probably worse than HK.

All the algs to gen are in that post.
yea mean 2

#### ObscureCuber

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Here's a thing-
Heise Belt
1.solve any 223 psuedo but make sure that the pieces are oriented and the bottom pieces are all from that side(white for ex)
2.Petrus EO
3. Finish placing F2L but without it being solved
4.Top layer(might in counter parity) ((just do R2 U2 R2 U2 R2
Solve E slice bottom layer(pll)

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#### TheSlykrCubr

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ok so remember when belt method was a thing, but we didn't realise that there would be parity?

why don't we just gen algs to orient the top layer, then it's just be normal oll on the bottom, and then pbl

It wouldn't be good, but it'd be a better belt method

#### BenChristman1

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ok so remember when belt method was a thing, but we didn't realise that there would be parity?

why don't we just gen algs to orient the top layer, then it's just be normal oll on the bottom, and then pbl

It wouldn't be good, but it'd be a better belt method
It still wouldn’t be very good, and M2 U2 M2 to fix parity is really fast.

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ok so remember when belt method was a thing, but we didn't realise that there would be parity?

why don't we just gen algs to orient the top layer, then it's just be normal oll on the bottom, and then pbl

It wouldn't be good, but it'd be a better belt method
makes more sense to just orient corners while doing belt so that you only have edge parity which can be dealt with easily

#### ObscureCuber

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Or just use domino reduction instead of belt its a better speedsolving method

#### TheSlykrCubr

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4x4 method

Same as Yau until edge pairing

add the last cross edge, and pair your edges, but you ignore your top colour, like in pEO. once you've paired them, F2L, and then do CLL and ELL (K4 ending)

#### PapaSmurf

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You could alternatively do pair edges, OLL, PLL if you wanna keep the CFOP vibe going.

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Or just use domino reduction instead of belt its a better speedsolving method
planning a dr in inspection is hard tho

#### ObscureCuber

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planning a dr in inspection is hard tho
This is why SSC is nice you can plan alot of it in inspect because its simplified

#### abunickabhi

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Method Neutrality might be a thing 10-20 years down in the future of cubing. We need to take the best from each method.

#### moh_33

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Method Neutrality might be a thing 10-20 years down in the future of cubing. We need to take the best from each method.
im kinda method neutral between CFOP Roux and Petrus all of them have an average around 37 - 39 seconds CFOP being the fastest single solve i achieved which is 30.36, Roux being my favourite, and petrus as the go to method if i get bored
(i can use ZZ but the time is slower for me at a flipping 43 seconds avg)

#### abunickabhi

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im kinda method neutral between CFOP Roux and Petrus all of them have an average around 37 - 39 seconds CFOP being the fastest single solve i achieved which is 30.36, Roux being my favourite, and petrus as the go to method if i get bored
(i can use ZZ but the time is slower for me at a flipping 43 seconds avg)
Wow nice good to hear. I am talking here about elite level method neutrality here. Sub-8 with 2 or 3 methods.