The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[BenChristman1]

ok so remember when belt method was a thing, but we didn't realise that there would be parity?

why don't we just gen algs to orient the top layer, then it's just be normal oll on the bottom, and then pbl

It wouldn't be good, but it'd be a better belt method

It still wouldn’t be very good, and M2 U2 M2 to fix parity is really fast.

 

[Nir1213]

why dont people do cross and f2l together?

 

[PetraPine]

why dont people do cross and f2l together?

they do(xcrosses/xxcrosses)

 

[Nir1213]

they do(xcrosses/xxcrosses)

oh yea ok

 

[RadicalMacaroni]

ok so remember when belt method was a thing, but we didn't realise that there would be parity?

why don't we just gen algs to orient the top layer, then it's just be normal oll on the bottom, and then pbl

It wouldn't be good, but it'd be a better belt method

makes more sense to just orient corners while doing belt so that you only have edge parity which can be dealt with easily

 

[PetraPine]

Or just use domino reduction instead of belt its a better speedsolving method

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

4x4 method

Same as Yau until edge pairing

add the last cross edge, and pair your edges, but you ignore your top colour, like in pEO. once you've paired them, F2L, and then do CLL and ELL (K4 ending)

 

[PapaSmurf]

You could alternatively do pair edges, OLL, PLL if you wanna keep the CFOP vibe going.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

You could alternatively do pair edges, OLL, PLL if you wanna keep the CFOP vibe going.

no

 

[RadicalMacaroni]

Or just use domino reduction instead of belt its a better speedsolving method

planning a dr in inspection is hard tho

 

[PetraPine]

planning a dr in inspection is hard tho

This is why SSC is nice you can plan alot of it in inspect because its simplified

 

[abunickabhi]

Method Neutrality might be a thing 10-20 years down in the future of cubing. We need to take the best from each method.

 

[moh_33]

Method Neutrality might be a thing 10-20 years down in the future of cubing. We need to take the best from each method.

im kinda method neutral between CFOP Roux and Petrus all of them have an average around 37 - 39 seconds CFOP being the fastest single solve i achieved which is 30.36, Roux being my favourite, and petrus as the go to method if i get bored
(i can use ZZ but the time is slower for me at a flipping 43 seconds avg)

 

[abunickabhi]

im kinda method neutral between CFOP Roux and Petrus all of them have an average around 37 - 39 seconds CFOP being the fastest single solve i achieved which is 30.36, Roux being my favourite, and petrus as the go to method if i get bored
(i can use ZZ but the time is slower for me at a flipping 43 seconds avg)

Wow nice good to hear. I am talking here about elite level method neutrality here. Sub-8 with 2 or 3 methods.

 

[moh_33]

Wow nice good to hear. I am talking here about elite level method neutrality here. Sub-8 with 2 or 3 methods.

i may not be sub 8 yet but i will try to reach sub 35 and im pretty confident about it

edit : after that ill get a smaller amount of time

 

[PetraPine]

Im method neutral with Petrus,ZZ,Cfop
but I feel that its better to just do 1/2 methods out of time not 3.
Im sub 11 with them and sub 12 with roux.

 

[Nir1213]

Wow nice good to hear. I am talking here about elite level method neutrality here. Sub-8 with 2 or 3 methods.

you talkin tao-yu level here
pretty elite.
sub 8 with multiple methods is very hard.

 

[PapaSmurf]

you talkin tao-yu level here
pretty elite.
sub 8 with multiple methods is very hard.

I don't think Tao would ever claim sub 8 with multiple methods (if one, although maybe CFOP), you'd have to be more elite.

 

[Nir1213]

I don't think Tao would ever claim sub 8 with multiple methods (if one, although maybe CFOP), you'd have to be more elite.

i think he can if he tries,
hes pretty close at sub 10 with his methods tho.

 

[PapaSmurf]

I'm Justin is bad.
He also only really solves with ZB.

Anyway, method neutrality is possible but not worth it, just like most methods which go for good singles.