The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[LukasCubes]

Tripod on a 2x2. LOL feel free to scream at me.

3/4 of a layer
tripod piece
without disrupting the tripod piece, solve the rest of the first layer
solve the last layer with 1 or 32(?) algorithms

this wasnt on any list of 2x2 methods i could find lol. I am calling it Tripod-2

 

[PetraPine]

Tripod on a 2x2. LOL feel free to scream at me.

3/4 of a layer
tripod piece
without disrupting the tripod piece, solve the rest of the first layer
solve the last layer with 1 or 32(?) algorithms

this wasnt on any list of 2x2 methods i could find lol. I am calling it Tripod-2

This is just basically biggeners because you almost always have atleast 1 oriented corner during first layer, which you could make the tripod peice

 

[LukasCubes]

Just like tripod on a 3x3 except it is on a 2x2. And no it isnt a beginners method. What kind of beginners method on a 2x2 would have 32 algs (dont answer this)?

Edit: Example Solve

Scramble:F2 R U2 F' U2 F' R2 F2 R'

U F L // Tripod 1st Layer
y2 R U2 R' // Tripod Piece
U y L F' L' F L F' L' F L F' L' F // rest of first layer
y R U R' U' R' F R F' // T2LL (Tripod 2 Last Layer)
U2 // AUF

alg.cubing.net

alg.cubing.net

Not a good solve but it was somethin. 9.33TPS or more would be a sub-3 solve.

 

[PetraPine]

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Just like tripod on a 3x3 except it is on a 2x2. And no it isnt a beginners method. What kind of beginners method on a 2x2 would have 32 algs (dont answer this)?

Edit: Example Solve

Scramble:F2 R U2 F' U2 F' R2 F2 R'

U F L // Tripod 1st Layer
y2 R U2 R' // Tripod Piece
U y L F' L' F L F' L' F L F' L' F // rest of first layer
y R U R' U' R' F R F' // T2LL (Tripod 2 Last Layer)
U2 // AUF

alg.cubing.net

alg.cubing.net

Not a good solve but it was somethin. 9.33TPS or more would be a sub-3 solve.

Look at my post i said it was bassically the beggeners method/lbl because like i said you normally almost always have one top edge solved and you said you COULD do it with one alg, anyway this is just a worse form of LBL+CLL because it barely has less algs+you have to preserve a corner during first layer

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

started working on COALL algorithms. Done all the Dot Cases

The B and S moves shouldn't be too bad

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

ok but why not petrus w with eo at start

 

[Athefre]

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Just like tripod on a 3x3 except it is on a 2x2. And no it isnt a beginners method. What kind of beginners method on a 2x2 would have 32 algs (dont answer this)?

Edit: Example Solve

Scramble:F2 R U2 F' U2 F' R2 F2 R'

U F L // Tripod 1st Layer
y2 R U2 R' // Tripod Piece
U y L F' L' F L F' L' F L F' L' F // rest of first layer
y R U R' U' R' F R F' // T2LL (Tripod 2 Last Layer)
U2 // AUF

alg.cubing.net

alg.cubing.net

Not a good solve but it was somethin. 9.33TPS or more would be a sub-3 solve.

I think this is a pretty common idea too. But I'm not sure if anyone has focused on developing it. It would be a subset of L5C (or 1LLS as it's called on the wiki for some reason).

Notes for improvement:

+ 1-look is definitely the way to go instead of your two-look example. Meaning one alg after the tripod. If you want this to be good for speedsolving.
+ Versus CLL/EG: A good use for this would likely be when the V shape is already formed after the scramble and it would take several moves to get to CLL.
+ The pseudo applications would be pretty interesting. You can use any corner on the U layer. You don't have to only align the matching one at ULB. You could also do an EG kind of thing and have other alg sets for a non-permuted tripod. This could go in any direction, not only the D layer. There are many other pseudo things, but those are just two examples that would be easy to implement.

 

[Nir1213]

if multislotting is a thing, maybe there is a way to multislot the last two pairs while making EO on top, kinda like VHLS but its two pairs instead, or heck even solving the whole cube like zbll.
What do you guys think of my idea?

 

[PapaSmurf]

Think about it practically. Firstly work out how many cases there are for last 2 pairs, then work out that multiplied by the potential EOs.

 

[MichaelZRC]

Hi. The H method uses few algorithms. Two examples:


D' F2 U' B2 F2 D2 U' L2 D2 R2 B' L B2 F2 R B' U' F L R2

z2
F2 U L R' F L R' D
U L' R' U' R2 U2 L U2 R
U2 L U L U L2 U L U' L // LS
R U2 L' U' L U2 R' // HLS
U R' F' R U2 R U2 R' F U' R U' R' // COLL
U2 M2 U' M' U2 M U' M2 U' // EPLL

D' R2 U R2 U2 B2 F2 U F2 L2 U' F' D2 L' B' F2 D' B R2 B R2

z2
L' B' U L' D' F
U2 R2 U2 R U2 L R2 U2 L2 U' L'
U R U' R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R' U // LS
U R U2 R' // HLS
R' F' R U2 R U2 R' F U' R U' R' // COLL
U2 M2 U M' U2 M U M2 U // EPLL

ZZ that reduces LL to H? This has been thought of many times before and its better off to use TUL if you want to reduce ZBLL during LS.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

ZZ that reduces LL to H? This has been thought of many times before and its better off to use TUL if you want to reduce ZBLL during LS.

so if you could force a Two corner oriented case, would that be good?

 

[PapaSmurf]

It would be alright I guess. It isn't too hard to do for R U' R' cases. You need insert, sexy insert, insert with U2, inverse sexy insert with U2.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

It would be alright I guess. It isn't too hard to do for R U' R' cases. You need insert, sexy insert, insert with U2, inverse sexy insert with U2.

do you think that idea's worth developing?

 

[PapaSmurf]

There’s not a lot to develop, it’s all pretty much in that post.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

There’s not a lot to develop, it’s all pretty much in that post.

by develop i mean gen algs

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

If i may











Line

1x2x3 left block

last 3 pairs

hkcll

l5e

 

[PapaSmurf]

Do you mean last 2 pairs? Still, is probably worse than HK.

by develop i mean gen algs

All the algs to gen are in that post.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

Do you mean last 2 pairs? Still, is probably worse than HK.

All the algs to gen are in that post.

yea mean 2

 

[PetraPine]

Here's a thing-
Heise Belt
1.solve any 223 psuedo but make sure that the pieces are oriented and the bottom pieces are all from that side(white for ex)
2.Petrus EO
3. Finish placing F2L but without it being solved
4.Top layer(might in counter parity) ((just do R2 U2 R2 U2 R2
Solve E slice bottom layer(pll)

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

ok so remember when belt method was a thing, but we didn't realise that there would be parity?

why don't we just gen algs to orient the top layer, then it's just be normal oll on the bottom, and then pbl

It wouldn't be good, but it'd be a better belt method