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[#CubingForPeace]

Thanks AlphaSheep.
Well, what would be the average movecount after learning full PLL but still using 2 look OLL?

 

[#CubingForPeace]

Anyone having a quick answer?please?

 

[PurpleBanana]

I think the efficiency difference between full OLL and 2L OLL is about 7 or 8 moves.

 

[#CubingForPeace]

I think the efficiency difference between full OLL and 2L OLL is about 7 or 8 moves.

Thanks

 

[Carlo.Diyan_109]

hi guys,
im having trouble increasing my left hands tps, it can't catch up with my right hand
any suggestions?? thankyou

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

Thanks AlphaSheep.
Well, what would be the average movecount after learning full PLL but still using 2 look OLL?

the average movecount for OLL according to the speedsolving wiki is 9.8 moves
For EOLL, there are 4 options:
skip: .125 chance, 0 moves, .125x0=0
2flip: .75 chance, 6 moves, .75x6=4.5
4flip: .125 chance, 11 moves, .125*11=1.375
0+4.5+1.375 = 5.875 which rounds to 5.9
OCLL according to the wiki is 7.9 moves on average
5.9+7.9=13.8

tl;dr:
2-look OLL takes 13.8 moves
1-look OLL takes 9.8 moves

hi guys,
im having trouble increasing my left hands tps, it can't catch up with my right hand
any suggestions?? thankyou

Most people don't use many left-handed algs, the main uses for LH are simple flicks, including U', U2'; and L moves. Practice making sure those are smooth until you can speed up.

 

[#CubingForPeace]

Thanks JustinTimeCuber.
Thats really great!!
So its not much worth learning full OLL as it saves just 4 moves.

 

[AlphaSheep]

the average movecount for OLL according to the speedsolving wiki is 9.8 moves
For EOLL, there are 4 options:
skip: .125 chance, 0 moves, .125x0=0
2flip: .75 chance, 6 moves, .75x6=4.5
4flip: .125 chance, 11 moves, .125*11=1.375
0+4.5+1.375 = 5.875 which rounds to 5.9
OCLL according to the wiki is 7.9 moves on average
5.9+7.9=13.8

tl;dr:
2-look OLL takes 13.8 moves
1-look OLL takes 9.8 moves

Almost. Add a chance for an AUF in the middle (less than 0.75 because H OCLL is symmetric and skips don't need an extra AUF)

 

[obelisk477]

My cross takes average moves of ~10,while f2l takes around ~30-32moves.I know complete 2 look OLL and 14 plls but I normally don't use R perms in solves.
Can anyone suggest now if I'm still making a mistake thus raising the movecount to ~75 moves or it is normal??????

You should also be able to knock 4 or so moves off of your cross if it averages 10 moves

 

[#CubingForPeace]

That's a bit tedious for a cuber like me with just 5 months of cubing experience ,Ao100 of 52.53s and PB of 34.23s
But I'll try to atleast knock off 2-3 moves.

 

[obelisk477]

That's a bit tedious for a cuber like me with just 5 months of cubing experience ,Ao100 of 52.53s and PB of 34.23s
But I'll try to atleast knock off 2-3 moves.

Yeah, best advice for that is to just make sure you're using the full 15 seconds of inspection to try and plan out the shortest possible cross. Eventually that average will drop. And shorter crosses lead to seeing the first F2L pair easier, so it makes the next step easier as well

 

[PurpleBanana]

Thanks JustinTimeCuber.
Thats really great!!
So its not much worth learning full OLL as it saves just 4 moves.

The main problem is not the 4 moves, it's the pause. 2 look OLL is much slower because you have to stop in the middle and recognize OCLL.

 

[#CubingForPeace]

The main problem is not the 4 moves, it's the pause. 2 look OLL is much slower because you have to stop in the middle and recognize OCLL.

Thats worth just a few seconds(for,me at least).I have tried to find out the time difference between 1 look OLL and 2 look OLL and according to me,learning 45 more algs will hardly save me 6-7 seconds(for now).

But I'll surely learn full OLL after I become sub-20.

 

[aybuck37]

For feet can you move the cube off the stackmat mat?

 

[PurpleBanana]

Thats worth just a few seconds(for,me at least).

A few seconds is a lot.

 

[#CubingForPeace]

A few seconds is a lot.

Hey,I said that I don't care about those few seconds. Those are not important to cubers(me) with 52 seconds average.
These 'few' seconds are really worth after goin' sub-30 or sub-20.

 

[#CubingForPeace]

Collin Burns is right.

 

[JustinTimeCuber]

Thanks JustinTimeCuber.
Thats really great!!
So its not much worth learning full OLL as it saves just 4 moves.

If you want to get faster, it helps, because remember there's also the time taken for recognition.

 

[#CubingForPeace]

Does anyone know what 'rulz' means in 'fazrulz'?
I know the meaning of FAZ: F2L After Zeroing.
But I wonder,is rulz an algorithm of Rw Uw Lw and Z rotation??

 

[shadowslice e]

Hey,I said that I don't care about those few seconds. Those are not important to cubers(me) with 52 seconds average.
These 'few' seconds are really worth after goin' sub-30 or sub-20.

Starting with good habits means smoother progress and less frustration when you learn later because you're used to learning algs.