[Help Thread] F2L Discussion and Help

[Gingerbread Cubing]

since you're sub 40 you should focus on efficiency, once you get to around sub-25 ish you should start to practice look ahead

 

[CaptainCubicle]

since you're sub 40 you should focus on efficiency, once you get to around sub-25 ish you should start to practice look ahead

What is your Avg. And pb?

 

[alister]

What is your Avg. And pb?

His best official average is 9.58, and his official PB is 8.28. You can click on his WCA page right below his name.

 

[CaptainCubicle]

His best official average is 9.58, and his official PB is 8.28. You can click on his WCA page right below his name.

Ok thanks. Will keep that in mind next time

 

[Gingerbread Cubing]

What is your Avg. And pb?

I average low 9's and my pb is 5.37

 

[Marcequi]

Hi!
I'm learning CFOP reduced and I'm very stucked in F2L intuitive. I know how to do it but when I try to do it in my solves my times are like 20 seconds more than before using F2L intuitive. Any tip to improve my F2L?

 

[Angry_Mob]

I think most cubers get worse times when they first learn F2L. Just practice learning more efficient ways to do pairs and recognition.

 

[Gameboy612]

But I average 10 seconds on last layer (4lll) while my avg is 25

 

[Davsalooki]

(For BR slot) Is the r' U' R U M' insert better than y U R U' R' (can also be used as partial edge control)?

 

[greentgoatgal]

It can be useful sometimes, depends on the case. If rotating to insert is going to help with future pairs, then go ahead and rotate. But if it's better not to, then do the alg.

 

[IsoSpandy]

I am a 25sec average solver using 3LL and the only way to improve seems to be working on my look ahead. But for looking ahead, the prerequisite is to be able to solve f2l pairs from muscle memory from any position. So I thought I'd someone could post the f2l cases algorithmically so I could memorise it and then progress to looking ahead

 

[WombatWarrior17]

Don't learn them using algorithms. Muscle memory just comes with time and practice, so just practice solving a pair with your eyes closed. Also, make sure you can solve most cases in 8 moves or less, 11 moves for bad cases.

 

[Deleted member 36445]

http://filipeteixeira.com.br/cube/?section=f2l

 

[CraZZ CFOP]

Tip 2: When doing the pair blindfolded, do the solution really really fast. This drills the alg into muscle memory.
There are still a few cases that require you to use algs, since the algs solve them much more efficiently than an intuitive method would. Examples:
F U R U' R' F' R U' R for misoriented edge connected with corner with white facing up
M U L F' L' U' M' for oriented edge connected with corner facing edge (R U' R U2 R2 U' R2 U' R2 for ZZ solvers)
F R U2 R' F' instead of y' R U' R' U2 R U R'
And a few other non-intuitive algs.

But most F2L cases should be learned and done intuitively.

 

[Roy88]

Can someone help me improve my f2l

 

[AidanNoogie]

Can someone help me improve my f2l

Have you thought of looking on YouTube???

 

[Roy88]

Have you thought of looking on YouTube???

Yes I did but it's not helping can you send me a good video

 

[ImmolatedMarmoset]

Yes I did but it's not helping can you send me a good video

Honestly, anything by Jperm is good. If you don’t think so, you just have to practice the techniques. It doesn’t come naturally and never will. Just use his tricks along w/ some practice and you’ll be fine.

 

[AidanNoogie]

Yes I did but it's not helping can you send me a good video

Look on cubeskills.com

 

[leven Williams]

What times should I start getting before beginning look ahead for f2l?