[Help Thread] CFOP Discussion

[Spacey10]

Check out J Perm's tutorials for 4x4 and 5x5. There's three new algs for 4x4, and zero for 5x5(assuming you learn 5x5? (did you mean 4x4?) first)

 

[NeoBridgeburn]

I can solve the 3x3 in about 1 min 15 secs.

I maybe entirely wrong, but learning Intuitive F2L is good.

 

[DemonicCuberad]

Go to https://jperm.net/3x3/cfop, great written as well as video tutorial. And then go to zubin park's thread

 

[zslane]

Be aware, if you aren't already, that changing over to CFOP will increase your solve times noticeably for a while. It will take some time to internalize the new concepts and algorithms, and during that period you will find you are a lot slower than you used to be. But that's natural, and it's an expected consequence of transitioning to an advanced method.

 

[vidcapper]

I found Rollo Cubing & Gaming tutorials to be the easiest to follow for beginners, also Bearded Cuber who also features a lot of unusual cubes.

 

[Turbo TPS]

Check out this video by Ultra Instinct Cubing on how to get sub 10 on 3x3
Link :

 

[Troutcuber08]

I've been into cubing for about 4 year now. I started out and learned the beginners method. After about half a year of practice I was consistently getting 1 minute solves. Then I got a speed cube and after another 6 months of practicing I was getting around 40 to 45 seconds. I took a break for 2 years and now im getting back into cubing. I've been practicing for the past week and im getting an average of 50 seconds. My goal is that I want to get 35 seconds average since that is my personal best time. I think learning cfop is definitely the way to go. I have a few books that im trying to learn from but im stuck on f2l and its super confusing! I've watched some video online but they can be very confusing. My question is does anyone know of any good guides either a you tube video or like a instructional website that is a good approach to f2l/ cfop for beginners or if you guys have any tips that would be great! Thanks in advance.

 

[Deleted member 51471]

This video is a nice overview that traces a guide for you

You must keep in mind that there are also other ways though. Roux, ZZ, Petrus, Waterman and LEOR are other great methods that are just as viable as CFOP.

 

[Zubin Park]

I would recommend you take a look at my CFOP guide, which is linked in my signature!

 

[Troutcuber08]

This video is a nice overview that traces a guide for you

You must keep in mind that there are also other ways though. Roux, ZZ, Petrus, Waterman and LEOR are other great methods that are just as viable as CFOP.

I watched the guide and took notes on f2l. Thanks a ton it helped a lot. Now I finally understand. Thanks!

I would recommend you take a look at my CFOP guide, which is linked in my signature!

Im DEFINITELY going to follow your guide. Its super helpful! I hope it can help me reach my goal but i bet it will!

 

[Username: Username:]

Welcome to the forum! like WCC has pointed out, try out other methods, see if you like some of them.

 

[lawofthecube]

Hi, I am curious when sometimes people are doing a OLL and the cube just suddenly solves. I'm fairly new, maybe an advanced beginner and am using CFOP now and I've watched video's and done my own solves and wondered what that is? Is that COLL where a step is skipped, if that's what COLL is kinda or am I missing another variable when solving cause I like it but am always expecting to do PLL or with my 4LL I have to do less than 4 algs to get a solve?

Thanks,

 

[Prabal Baishya]

Hi, I am curious when sometimes people are doing a OLL and the cube just suddenly solves. I'm fairly new, maybe an advanced beginner and am using CFOP now and I've watched video's and done my own solves and wondered what that is? Is that COLL where a step is skipped, if that's what COLL is kinda or am I missing another variable when solving cause I like it but am always expecting to do PLL or with my 4LL I have to do less than 4 algs to get a solve?

Thanks,

When you have all of the edges oriented after doing F2L then there is an alg subset, COLL which along with solving the OLL it permutes the corners of last layer so that you have only a U,H or Z perm. ZBLL is another set which solves the entire last layer if you have all the edges oriented for you OLL. Or it simply may be a PLL skip in that case.

 

[lawofthecube]

When you have all of the edges oriented after doing F2L then there is an alg subset, COLL which along with solving the OLL it permutes the corners of last layer so that you have only a U,H or Z perm. ZBLL is another set which solves the entire last layer if you have all the edges oriented for you OLL. Or it simply may be a PLL skip in that case.

Thank you

 

[Deleted member 54663]

If I do an ao100, the first 5 solves, I 20 or 21 with high tps and lots of pauses. Later, I get 17s, 18s, and 19, but my movecount is very high. If I do a slow solve, I can never get below 70 moves. 2look oll and full pll except nb perm. How to I get my movecount to at least 65 or 60? I can work out my pauses and remove them later, I need to get my movecount down. When I look at my movecount in fast solves, I get 70 - 90 moves, because of messed up f2l pairs, and u4s. How do i remove these from my solves.(i still get 20s, or below with these, but I want to get better.)

intuitive f2l is what i'm using. 2 extra jperm tricks.

 

[Skewb_Cube]

Check this thread from @Zubin Park ! https://www.speedsolving.com/threads/help-for-cubers-who-want-to-beat-sub-x-cfop.77867/

You can do solves, practice look ahead, drill algs and also learn that Nb perm.

 

[ArbishAli]

Just practise...

 

[Laila]

I am a pretty new cuber. I started cubing for real in July and I am hooked. I can’t go without having a cube in my hand. When I started I was about a minute 30 seconds but I have practiced really hard and now I am at 29-35 seconds. I am kind of stuck now tho. How do you get sub 20??? I know I need to speed up my f2l but I’m not sure how to do that and I am working on getting color neutral. I am still learning OLL but I am still on 2 look PLL. As you can see Im very new at this but I am determined to get sub 20 by the end of the year. Thanks for reading this thread and thank you to everyone who answers.
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[Deleted member 51471]

First, you'd better learn PLL. You should learn PLL BEFORE OLL.
Second, just drill solves. Doing a couple thousand solves should easily get you sub-20 at your level.

 

[Laila]

@WarriorCatCuber I will definitely switch over to learning PLL. Yeah that makes sense, I’ll try to get as many solves as I can. Thanks for you help!