[Help Thread] Lubrication Thread

[mati1242]

is z-lube better than maru?

Definietely no.
If you have chance then buy maru lube.

 

[YddEd]

How does Z-Lube feel?

 

[Maverick15]

Best lube??

I have ordered a v-cube 3 pillowed black.should I lube it? If so then which??
I am not very keen on using silicon spray.
Thank you

 

[Kattenvriendin]

You DO realize that with the pillowed cube you will not be able to enter competitions.. should you ever so desire?

My v-cube 4 hates traxxas.. maru is supposed to be good for that but still waiting on it. However it turns like a charm without lube after a wee bit of breaking in. I don't know about the v-cube 3 though, I don't own one.

 

[Maverick15]

Well I won't be entering any competitions as I don't speed cube much and I am not that good too.
BUT I do want a good cube.

 

[Kattenvriendin]

Well.. the best on the market, at this moment, is the dayan zhanchi, followed closely by the dayan guhong version 2.

Fangshi and Moyu are closing in in popularity, but I think zhanchi and guhong v2 are considered by the majority to be the best cubes.

 

[Maverick15]

I like the pillowed ones better than the cubic ones, even though the cubic ones might be a little better.
Can any of you tell me the cubes which work well with lubixs and maru lubes.

 

[windhero]

Well erm, cubes are all made from plastic (generally). Maru and lubix work the same on plastic so it shouldnt matter which you use; Maru is used on big cubes and lubix is used in smaller cubes and all the cores. If you buy a cube where you can access the core (spring core for example), buy Lubix.

Also maru works better on cubes with a complex mechanism as Maru lube is runny. Lubix tends to stick and it needs to spread evenly throughout the puzzle.

The safer bet is lubix or traxxas.

 

[YddEd]

Does this lube work well?
http://www.fasttech.com/products/2115/10002270/1165600
If not, I think I'll just buy 2 bottles of maru lube with a extra cube.

 

[Lchu613]

Yup, that Prostaff (Prostaff D-39 ro be precise) is like the Asian equivalent of CRC
If you can get your hands on CRC though its a lot cheaper (if from a store anyway), my bottle was under $2.50

If not, here's a cheaper can off lightake:
http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku._Professional_Magic_Cube_Lubricant_(420ml)-24271

 

[YddEd]

Yup, that Prostaff (Prostaff D-39 ro be precise) is like the Asian equivalent of CRC
If you can get your hands on CRC though its a lot cheaper (if from a store anyway), my bottle was under $2.50

If not, here's a cheaper can off lightake:
http://lightake.com/detail.do/sku._Professional_Magic_Cube_Lubricant_(420ml)-24271

Does it work well on dayan cubes?

 

[rj]

should i lube my ss 4x4 v3 core? if so what with?

yes
with CRC

 

[Lchu613]

How do you lube a core with CRC?

 

[windhero]

I'm guessing he means just spraying a crapload of CRC in the direction of the core. This does not actually lube the core. Just go with differential oil or lubix, there's plenty of tutorials on how to do it.

When people talk about lubing the core they generally mean lubing the contact points of the screws and center pieces and the contact points of the springs and the washers. The actual core doesnt have to be lubed at all.

 

[dalsio]

So I got a bit of Calvin's Lube Medium Viscosity recently, and only now popped it open to look inside. I'm not familiar with calvin's lube, but the stuff in the syringe seems really thin, almost the consistency of water. Is this intentional, or was there a handling error? I live in texas, so it may well have been stored in a hot warehouse for a day, so I don't know. It's kind of hard to use, because the plunger also sticks a bit, so when I try to squeeze some lube out it tends to spit all over the place.

I also got some high viscosity lube, but that seems almost a solid it's so thick. Kind of want something in between. Short of mixing the two together, any advice?

 

[windhero]

So I got a bit of Calvin's Lube Medium Viscosity recently, and only now popped it open to look inside. I'm not familiar with calvin's lube, but the stuff in the syringe seems really thin, almost the consistency of water. Is this intentional, or was there a handling error? I live in texas, so it may well have been stored in a hot warehouse for a day, so I don't know. It's kind of hard to use, because the plunger also sticks a bit, so when I try to squeeze some lube out it tends to spit all over the place.

I also got some high viscosity lube, but that seems almost a solid it's so thick. Kind of want something in between. Short of mixing the two together, any advice?

I don't know for sure but it does sound like calvins lube is differential oil. Higher viscosity means a stickier lube. Basically what this means in terms of lubing, a high viscosity lube is good for any core and small cubes, because it can easily spread between the few pieces. Medium viscosity in this scenario is better for big cubes, as it spreads better between all of the pieces.

The sticky lube is harder to spread, but imo it covers a larger area and settles better. You cant use high viscosity on big cubes, because there is no way the lube will easily spread on all the pieces, it might just stick to one part of the cube ending up in an uneven tension.

Mixing differential oils of different viscosities is possible, but the calculations are a bit different (http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/oil_mixer.html). I dont know how the mixing actually happens, since I've never tried it. Stirring the stuff up with a stick might work, no guarantees though.

 

[dalsio]

Hmm. Seems to me that the runny nature of the medium viscosity is intentional. Feel like it should be called "Low Viscosity" but ah well. Not sure how I will apply it, maybe squirt it out into a cup and apply it with a cotton swab. I guess, for now, I'll use the high viscosity on the core. Maybe I'll research how to mix them later.

 

[windhero]

My guess is that high viscosity lube is 50k weight differential oil and medium is 30k or maybe even lower (10k?). I read some stuff on this on some RC-forums and everyone just said that mixing is possible and that they do it all the time for their cars. I suppose this means that you can just pour them in a bowl, stir them and suck them up in a syringe if you want to.

 

[YddEd]

How should I lube my 4x4 with a spray can?
Disassemble or just pop out some edge pieces and work it in? I don't REALLY care about this 4x4, so if it ends up glued I don't really care.

 

[windhero]

How should I lube my 4x4 with a spray can?
Disassemble or just pop out some edge pieces and work it in? I don't REALLY care about this 4x4, so if it ends up glued I don't really care.

You shouldn't but if you really have to, disassemble the whole thing, position the pieces on some newspaper so that the stickers face away from you and spray a little on the pieces (the back of the pieces, where the contact points are). Let it dry for a while and assemble.