[Help Thread] F2L Discussion and Help

[Deleted member 55877]

How would you solve this case for the back left? I normally do two back sledgehammers or rotate. Is there anything better?

y R' U' R U R' U' R
rotating is best

 

[DNF_Cuber]

How would you solve this case for the back left? I normally do two back sledgehammers or rotate. Is there anything better?

R' F R F' U R U' R'

 

[Deleted member 55877]

R' F R F' U R U' R'

How would you solve this case for the back left? I normally do two back sledgehammers or rotate. Is there anything better?

 

[fadsarmy]

R' F R F' U R U' R'

For FR I like (I' U I F') x2

 

[DNF_Cuber]

Well here's this:
f' L' f U f' L' f

 

[U3cubing]

So I’m mentoring someone, he knows the beginner method with two look Oll. He’s working on f2l. What should I do to help him with f2l/ what should his next step be?
Thanks!

 

[CrispyCubing]

So I’m mentoring someone, he knows the beginner method with two look Oll. He’s working on f2l. What should I do to help him with f2l/ what should his next step be?
Thanks!

What does he average? Also does he use 2-look PLL?

 

[U3cubing]

What does he average? Also does he use 2-look PLL?

He’s averaging 35 sec and yes two look pll ie corners then edges. He wants to know how to get faster.

 

[Spacey10]

He’s averaging 35 sec and yes two look pll ie corners then edges. He wants to know how to get faster.

Considering he knows 4lll you should see what cases he uses a lot of moves and rotations on. Then go to j perms document and tell him the alg. Don't just tell him the alg, show him what it does.

 

[CrispyCubing]

He’s averaging 35 sec and yes two look pll ie corners then edges. He wants to know how to get faster.

Yeah learning full PLL would be a great way to improve at this point, as well as learning new F2L cases. These can also be worked on simultaneously and it doesn’t really matter which you focus on first.

 

[U3cubing]

Yeah learning full PLL would be a great way to improve at this point, as well as learning new F2L cases. These can also be worked on simultaneously and it doesn’t really matter which you focus on first.

He still can only barely do f2l.

 

[Cubing Forever]

He still can only barely do f2l.

If that's the case, try helping him to grasp the basics of intuitive F2L first. Full PLL can come later. He can reach sub 30 with good intuitive F2L alone.

(English is my third language lol)

 

[The_dark_cuber]

He still can only barely do f2l.

I still don't have my G perms down and still use 2-look OLL but I am nearing sub-15. I would say teach him full intuitive F2L. Also, it would be a good idea to teach him efficient ways of solving cross. It will give him a basic understanding of how pieces move and beginners are usually very inefficient with cross.

 

[The_dark_cuber]

How do I solve these two F2L cases?

Case 1 facing blue front and solving the blue-red pair into the front-right slot.
Case 2 facing green front and solving the blue-red pair into the back-left slot.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

How do I solve these two F2L cases?

Case 1 facing blue front and solving the blue-red pair into the front-right slot.
Case 2 facing green front and solving the blue-red pair into the back-left slot.

Case 1: L F2 L' F2
Case 2: (U2) R U2 R' L' U' L
edit: realized you wanted case 2 for back left slot. alg for that case is (U) L' U L U L U L'

 

[The_dark_cuber]

Case 1: L F2 L' F2
Case 2: (U2) R U2 R' L' U' L
edit: realized you wanted case 2 for back left slot. alg for that case is (U) L' U L U L U L'

I was confused as to why the first alg didn't work. We have to start with a (U'). Thanks for the algs but I have two more thing to ask.

For case 1, what finger tricks do you use for the F2 at the end? Do you regrip your left hand at the end just before F2 or you regrip your right hand before starting the alg?

Do you use the same alg for case 2 when you are facing blue front (front right slot)? If yes, then how do you finger trick the alg? I can't do the U moves fast enough.

Also, thanks for the algs.

 

[Deleted member 55877]

I was confused as to why the first alg didn't work. We have to start with a (U'). Thanks for the algs but I have two more thing to ask.

For case 1, what finger tricks do you use for the F2 at the end? Do you regrip your left hand at the end just before F2 or you regrip your right hand before starting the alg?

Do you use the same alg for case 2 when you are facing blue front (front right slot)? If yes, then how do you finger trick the alg? I can't do the U moves fast enough.

Also, thanks for the algs.

fingertricks:
L F2 L' F2: for first F2 i doubleflick with left hand, for the second F2 i do right index F + left thumb F' combined (tricky at first but fast)
R U2 R' L' U L: left doubleflick U2, right index push U
L' U L U L U L': right index for first U, left index push for second, right index third

 

[qwr]

I noticed speedcubedb added cases for all slots which is cool to see. For ultra completeness, they should have every possible slot to insert in and slot free.

also what do you guys think of this

not sure it's faster than triple sexy or triple inverse sexy. it's 7 moves but 4 of the moves are double turns

 

[Deleted member 55877]

also what do you guys think of this

not sure it's faster than triple sexy or triple inverse sexy. it's 7 moves but 4 of the moves are double turns

This alg is the best. I can get 0.42 with this alg compared to triple inverse sexy which i struggle to get sub 0.55. However knowing ZBLS, OLS, etc for this case is definitely worth it and so i suggest to use multiple algs

 

[Swagrid]

I noticed speedcubedb added cases for all slots which is cool to see. For ultra completeness, they should have every possible slot to insert in and slot free.

also what do you guys think of this

not sure it's faster than triple sexy or triple inverse sexy. it's 7 moves but 4 of the moves are double turns

The alg is fast, It's just sune with R2's. Super Sune is a pog alg