[Help Thread] F2L Discussion and Help

[WannaBeCuber]

Ty. Sorry about my spelling. I'am not the best

 

[ImNOTnoob]

Lol, its FRIDRICH method.

Common mistakes: Friedrich, frendich, fredrich, fredrick, fridrech, fridritch, fridrick... I have seen them all.
I have no idea why anyone mispells it.

 

[pcharles93]

Lol, its FRIDRICH method.

Common mistakes: Friedrich, frendich, fredrich, fredrick, fridrech, fridritch, fridrick... I have seen them all.
I have no idea why anyone mispells it.

Lol, at least it's a word that almost everybody gets wrong.

 

[Gnjac3]

I like eriks video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbKvOXE__CM

 

[KevinK]

If I'm correct, then it seems like you can do F2L but have trouble doing it quickly. Once you start to get comfortable with F2L, you need to improve your look ahead. The best way to do this is to stop in the middle of a pair and look for another pair to track while you insert the one that you're on. Eventually, you'll be able to see the pair without stopping.

 

[IamWEB]

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=badmephisto&view=videos

Several videos here should help you out tremendously.

 

[bundat]

A bunch of my friends intentionally call it the "Fried Rice method"

 

[tim]

Lol, its FRIDRICH method.

Common mistakes: Friedrich, frendich, fredrich, fredrick, fridrech, fridritch, fridrick... I have seen them all.
I have no idea why anyone mispells it.

It's impossible to misspell it unless you're blind.

 

[IamWEB]

Lol, its FRIDRICH method.

Common mistakes: Friedrich, frendich, fredrich, fredrick, fridrech, fridritch, fridrick... I have seen them all.
I have no idea why anyone mispells it.

It's impossible to misspell it unless you're blind.

and then, in 1457 B.C., the typo was invented.

 

[tim]

Lol, its FRIDRICH method.

Common mistakes: Friedrich, frendich, fredrich, fredrick, fridrech, fridritch, fridrick... I have seen them all.
I have no idea why anyone mispells it.

It's impossible to misspell it unless you're blind.

and then, in 1457 B.C., the typo was invented.

I talk about spelling.

 

[shoot1510]

Lol, its FRIDRICH method.

Common mistakes: Friedrich, frendich, fredrich, fredrick, fridrech, fridritch, fridrick... I have seen them all.
I have no idea why anyone mispells it.

It's impossible to misspell it unless you're blind.

and then, in 1457 B.C., the typo was invented.

I talk about spelling.

FRID-RICH

Simple spell: Frid is only the part that you need to remember.

The other part Rich is simple.

 

[cyclone175]

Yeah I'm learning F2L too and it takes some time to drop a few seconds.
Just takes practice.

 

[minsarker]

Fridrich F2L Method

For the first f2l part do I need to memorize all 41 algorithms? Or is there a select few I have to know?

I know for OLL and PLL i can learn just a handful by searching 2-look and learning those, how about the f2l part?

also is there a nice list of algorithms available?

I tried looking but found a few places that showed them all with java stuff so i was unable to print em.

 

[h5n1]

Good info on everything Fridrich can be found here: http://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6085&highlight=fridrich+guide

As I understand it you do not need any algorithms for the f2l using Fridrich's. To do it intuitively you could have a look at this video: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=_3zmU8O7CKw

 

[minsarker]

thanks so much!

the 41 algorithms scared me so much, so I just learned it intuitively

still takes me a while but in a little bit of time ill have it down!

 

[nitrocan]

The sole purpose of most of those algorithms are to set those two pieces so that either they are matched for insertion, or so that they can be solved with the R U R' or L U' L' (etc.) triggers. Some though use block building (for exapmle: U2 R2 U2 R' U' R U' R2)

 

[blgentry]

To do it intuitively you could have a look at this video: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=_3zmU8O7CKw

Ouch. That video started great, but IMHO that is a terrible way of explaining F2L. He skips a variety of what I like to call the "base cases", instead choosing to transform *everything* into 2 of the base cases. ...and his explanation of that is a bit hard to follow.

Badmephisto's videos are better, and I even think Halosynper18's video is good. He's not as articulate as badmephisto, but his video *really* helped me before I knew how to do F2L.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5P6f0KTMxs

Brian.

 

[minsarker]

alright, so ive kinda picked up intuitive F2L except for basically one common case it seems

its basically when a corner faces right, and the edge top is same as the corner top

should I go to an algorithm or keep trying intuitively?

and how fast should I get my F2L before learning 2look OLL and PLL?

 

[Ellis]

when a corner faces right, and the edge top is same as the corner top

should I go to an algorithm or keep trying intuitively?

and how fast should I get my F2L before learning 2look OLL and PLL?

I'm having trouble imagining the case exactly, do (R U R' U2 R U' R') on a solved cube, is that what you mean? Or maybe what you get when you do (R' F R F' U F' U F U'). If its one of those, you can just do the inverse of the algorithm, but understand what's going on to keep it intuitive. You're hiding the corner using the open slot, then bringing the correctly oriented edge next to where the corner was and then restoring the corner/empty slot to pair them up.

And there's no certain speed you should be at with F2L before moving on the last layer algorithms. You can do them together. But it might be a good idea to wait a week or so until you really start getting the concepts of F2L down and then add PLL/2LOLL.

 

[minsarker]

Alright, thanks!

And yes it was those two, they were the only ones I didnt know

also, i notice sometimes that an edge and a corner are connected but the edge is the wrong orientation, should I move the corner away and reinsert next to the edge in the correct fashion or should I just learn the algorithm that flips the edge once the corner and edge is in place?