[Help Thread] CFOP Discussion

[TomasCZ]

Hi !
You definitely have evreything you need to be sub 25 , even sub 20. Are you able to record your solves and show them to us ?, so we could see your mistakes easily.
I think, that you should practice F2L ALOT and maybe learn better fingertricks for your algs.

 

[collppllzbf2lll]

turn faster and solve the f2l more efficient. that's all you have to do, and after some practice you should be sub20

 

[DeeDubb]

Post a video so you can get good advice. Otherwise, you'll only here generic tips that you probably already know.

 

[Anand Sinha]

You're taking 30 - 35 seconds to perform a 55 - 60 move solve? Sounds like you need to practice turning quicker, like 3 turns per second or more. Can you watch YouTube videos on your computer? If so, look for cubing instruction ones, there are many.

Hi !
You definitely have evreything you need to be sub 25 , even sub 20. Are you able to record your solves and show them to us ?, so we could see your mistakes easily.
I think, that you should practice F2L ALOT and maybe learn better fingertricks for your algs.

Post a video so you can get good advice. Otherwise, you'll only here generic tips that you probably already know.

so here is my 3x3 solve can anyone now help me to figure out my mistake

 

[DeeDubb]

Umm, how tight is your cube? It looks quite tight in the video which may be causing a lot of locking up.

Also, just reducing some recognition times and drilling PLL Algs should help you out. Otherwise, I'd just say keep practicing, and you will improve.

 

[Anand Sinha]

Umm, how tight is your cube? It looks quite tight in the video which may be causing a lot of locking up.

Also, just reducing some recognition times and drilling PLL Algs should help you out. Otherwise, I'd just say keep practicing, and you will improve.

I havent tension my cube since it is unboxed . it corner cuts more than 45 degree so its just fine for me.yup it locks almost every time in my solving.
thanks DeeDubb for helping me.

 

[SpeedCubeReview]

Umm, how tight is your cube? It looks quite tight in the video which may be causing a lot of locking up.

Also, just reducing some recognition times and drilling PLL Algs should help you out. Otherwise, I'd just say keep practicing, and you will improve.

Agreed. Also, just practice moving the cube without a timer. The beginning hewn solving the cross especially each move was very choppy instead of each movement flowing into the other. Don't worry so much about the time.... it will get faster with practice, and that moment when you feel stuck it will suddenly change again.

 

[pkvk9122]

lol after watching that vid there were some problems which stood out to me personally.

Firstly: Judging from the sound of the video and how much energy you are using in ur fingers, it seems as though ur cube is very sticky and waxy? It seems like it doesnt turn as well as it is supposed to. Maybe take a look at cleaning it out and relubing.

Secondly: The look ahead is not as great as it could be (not that mines good...) The time you spend looking for the next corner and edge pair in F2L stage is quite significant and time wasted looking for the next pieces are seconds you can save lol. Many tips out there to improve your look ahead. Search around.

Thirdly: Your TPS as SenorJuan mentioned earlier is quite slow. Try practising your OLL and PLL methods more, getting them at least sub 4 seconds.

Fourthly: Try memorizing your cross. You had to double check your cross in that vid lol.

Generally we can help you much more with a video solve, but in the end its still just one solve. If you give us a best of 5 or 12 it would give us much more to work on to find your problems xD.

Good luck

 

[PenguinsDontFly]

loosen your cube and work on recognizing cases in f2l. This will let you recognize the next case while you are executing the previous one.

 

[theROUXbiksCube]

Increase efficiency of cross and be able to preform it quickly (nothing should stop you since you have it planned out completely)

 

[Mosha]

Based on your video your turns seem to be very exaggerated and require significant wrist motion. Turns should be executed with just the tips of your fingers. The cube seems to be moving all over the place, it should remain relatively motionless. You shouldn't have to tilt the cube to confirm a match.

You should be at least sub 20 with all those algorithms. It seems you need to work on executions and possibly work on your cube tensions lube

 

[Anand Sinha]

Thanx everybody for helping me to inmprove my time of solving.

 

[PJKCuber]

I'm averaging 15.5. Should I learn OLL? BTW what is the problem with my Weilong V2 that I got from Cubezz? I've broken it in, loosened it and yet it is still slower and lockier and more horrible than my Cong's Design Yueying?

 

[SpeedCubeReview]

I'm averaging 15.5. Should I learn OLL? BTW what is the problem with my Weilong V2 that I got from Cubezz? I've broken it in, loosened it and yet it is still slower and lockier and more horrible than my Cong's Design Yueying?

Learning OLL is good to learn no matter what speed you are.

The YueYing is a newer cube than the WeiLong. The WeiLong isn't a super locky cube though. Have yo cleaned it recently?

 

[PJKCuber]

Learning OLL is good to learn no matter what speed you are.

The YueYing is a newer cube than the WeiLong. The WeiLong isn't a super lucky cube though. Have yo cleaned it recently?

No, I received it 2 weeks ago.

 

[mafergut]

I'm averaging 15.5. Should I learn OLL? BTW what is the problem with my Weilong V2 that I got from Cubezz? I've broken it in, loosened it and yet it is still slower and lockier and more horrible than my Cong's Design Yueying?

You always manage to shock me. Haven't you just said in the Roux thread that you were bored of CFOP and you were switching to Roux? By "learn OLL" you mean 1-look OLL? So, you managed to average 15.5 with 2-look OLL?

Regarding your Weilong I don't know what to think, you say that it is slow and locky, which it is not. So I'd tend to think that yours is perhaps defective but then you imply that your Yueying is even slower and lockier, which it isn't so, either you are really unlucky and have received 2 defective cubes or you don't properly set up your cubes or you are kidding us.

 

[Hawky]

I have been stuck at the high 20's low 30's mark... i average about 29 seconds.. im guessing i need to work on f2l, i know pll except for G perms, but i have trouble sometimes recognizing the plls quickly.. and tips? Thanks

 

[SpeedCubeReview]

I have been stuck at the high 20's low 30's mark... i average about 29 seconds.. im guessing i need to work on f2l, i know pll except for G perms, but i have trouble sometimes recognizing the plls quickly.. and tips? Thanks

Learn G perms, and OLL. F2L is probably the biggest thing to work on. Do a lot of slow turn solves to find now tricks to solving F2L cases.

 

[jms]

I was averaging about 31-33 seconds quite recently. For some reason I seem to have got a couple of seconds slower the last week. I use F2L, full PLL, 2 look OLL plus the two T-shape OLLs, I can usually plan out my cross but only occasionally can see into the first F2L pair. I use a weilong v2 and a gans357 as my mains. For training I do some blindfold cross, blindfold F2L pairs, a bit of metronome, and some slow solving. I need to drill PLLs but it's kind of boring so I am just doing PLLs as I get to them. They are mostly ok-ish, but I sometimes screw up my Ns and Gs, and I am kind of slow with Rb (or possibly Ra) I forget which one.

If I post up an ao12 video later can someone give me some tips please?

 

[mafergut]

I was averaging about 31-33 seconds quite recently. For some reason I seem to have got a couple of seconds slower the last week. I use F2L, full PLL, 2 look OLL plus the two T-shape OLLs, I can usually plan out my cross but only occasionally can see into the first F2L pair. I use a weilong v2 and a gans357 as my mains. For training I do some blindfold cross, blindfold F2L pairs, a bit of metronome, and some slow solving. I need to drill PLLs but it's kind of boring so I am just doing PLLs as I get to them. They are mostly ok-ish, but I sometimes screw up my Ns and Gs, and I am kind of slow with Rb (or possibly Ra) I forget which one.

If I post up an ao12 video later can someone give me some tips please?

Sure! Still suffering that temporary slowdown? I think the best thing you can do is a video. I'm sure we can give you more precise feedback with that. So, looking forward to watching you solve!