Blindsolving Discussion and Help

[ilikecubing]

There are two reasons for this

1) R2 has really long and inappropriate algs for shooting to the R layer

2 I'm not so sure about this one but usually there is a strange kind of parity with R2

 

[EricReese]

I need a new corner memo system. My corners take wayy to long and I often can't even memo them because I can't memo fast enough to take advantage of audio loop memo. Any recommendations? Or should I just make them all images like my edges?

 

[RyanReese09]

Practice. Everyone sucks at memo first.

 

[EricReese]

Or you could just respond to my question

 

[RyanReese09]

Try out visual I guess, but your corner memo is going to suck for every method you try, at first.

 

[riffz]

I honestly can't imagine anyone not being able to use audio memo for just corners after a bit of practice. But I guess I would say just use journey for all pieces if you're really convinced that you can't do it.

 

[nickvu2]

Does anyone have a good pure edge flip alg for DF UB?

 

[@uguste]

(U' M' U' M' U' M' U' M)2

 

[Tim Major]

Does anyone have a good pure edge flip alg for DF UB?

[B' R B U R2 U', M2]
Intuitive

 

[Zane_C]

Does anyone have a good pure edge flip alg for DF UB?

I'm not saying this is "good", but it's what I use:

F R2 U R' U' R' U2' r U R U' r' R' U2' F' cancels to: F' R2 U R' U' R' U2' r U R U' r' R' U2' F

For ME there's too much muscle memory involved. For instance, if I go too slow/pause/slip, it's very easy for me to fail at executing correctly.

 

[wontolla]

I use this to flip UF and UB edges:

(M' U')*3 U' (M U')*3 U'

In your case, with the set up move F2

 

[nickvu2]

Does anyone have a good pure edge flip alg for DF UB?

Maybe a better question is how are people handling flipped edges using M2/DIEDEM? DF UB algs are much nicer but only seem practical if there are 2 flipped edges (non-buffer). But what if there's only 1 flipped edge (+ flipped buffer)? Either a nasty alg for DF UB, or an F2 setup for DF UB =/ ...is there a cleaner option?

 

[Sakarie]

Does anyone have a good pure edge flip alg for DF UB?

IIRC Lucas Garron had a pretty good MU-alg. But I didn't learn it, so it could be one of those mentioned. Or it could be "someone else's".

When I were comfortable with M2 in general, I learned two easy commutators to deal with all the cases containing BU.

U [R] U M' U' [R]' U M U2
D [R] D M' D' [R]' D M D2

With mirrors and inverses.

 

[RyanReese09]

If one were to use pure turbo, as apposed to speed optimzed BH (or turbo if it's faster to do it that way), how much of a speed difference would there be?

Both cycle 3, but turbo has a bit more moves, though very fast to perform. I assume that if no pauses + constant TPS, since the move count would be only minimally higher, I imagine perhaps 3 or 4 seconds execution time lost? Any ideas?

 

[Zane_C]

If one were to use pure turbo, as apposed to speed optimzed BH (or turbo if it's faster to do it that way), how much of a speed difference would there be?

Both cycle 3, but turbo has a bit more moves, though very fast to perform. I assume that if no pauses + constant TPS, since the move count would be only minimally higher, I imagine perhaps 3 or 4 seconds execution time lost? Any ideas?

Interesting question, hard to answer precisely as cases can vary a lot:

UF > FD > FL:
Using TuRBo this could be solve by: D R2 L' (alg) L R2 D'
Using a speed-optimised comm it could be: U L' U' M' U L U' M
Depending on turning style, you could lose quite a bit of time for this case. As TuRBo is probably slower.

UF > LU > FR:
The TuRBo case for this is pretty much already speed-optimised: R (alg) R'.

You probably lose anywhere from 0-2 seconds per 3-cycle (depends on turning style). Which can either make little difference, or add up to quite a bit of time.

 

[hic0057]

I'm learning M2 for edges and I've been looking at Stefan guide and he says for the edges in M slice just to shoot to the position without worrying about flipping it. For shooting to UF he use U2 M' U2 M' and DB M U2 M U2.
If you on an odd number of M2 which spot would you sen the UF edge.Does it go to the DB location Between what was the Up face and Front face?

 

[Rune]

Aww, Rune - it would be so cool if you would learn! Are you sure? Have you tried some of the memory methods? The nice thing about the techniques is that your built-in memory doesn't have to be all that good - with those techniques, it's all about training, rather than natural ability. With a 3x3x3, there's really not all that much to memorize. Perhaps with a simple system, you could really retain it? I'd love it if you'd try!

Shall I tell you a secret, Mike? It´s not the memory - it´s laziness!

 

[wontolla]

Yes, you are still shooting to the correct location, you just use one algorithm or the other depending on if it's an odd shoot or not.

 

[Mike Hughey]

Shall I tell you a secret, Mike? It´s not the memory - it´s laziness!

That's okay. I guess you're entitled. I'm still glad you're a speedcuber. But it doesn't change the fact that I'd love it if you'd try BLD someday.

 

[RyanReese09]

What should we do in TuRBo if we just get a 2cycle of edges? Or in case of one scramble I had, 3 2cycles of 3edges?