Blindsolving Discussion and Help

[Randomno]

If I don't understand M2 very well, is it worth learning CP edges?

 

[CyanSandwich]

For Multi-BLD, is there a minimum amount of cubes you can have? (obviously more than 1)

Just 2. Time limit is 10 mins per cube (except 6+ is obviously 60 mins). Also 1/2 or negative points is a DNF. Any other 0 points is not a DNF.

If I don't understand M2 very well, is it worth learning CP edges?

I don't know what you mean by CP edges. Corner permutation? (that doesn't make sense). But I'd recommend learning M2 edges, it's worth it and probably not as hard as you think.

Edit: Oh Classic Pochmann right? I'd still recommend going straight to M2 if you want more than just being able to do BLD.

 

[Randomno]

Edit: Oh Classic Pochmann right? I'd still recommend going straight to M2 if you want more than just being able to do BLD.

Yeah, I prefer calling it Classic Pochmann.

I plan to learn M2 eventually, I don't understand the concept of it well enough yet though. I think CP edges sounds easier, even if it is slower.

 

[JasonDL13]

Yeah, I prefer calling it Classic Pochmann.

I plan to learn M2 eventually, I don't understand the concept of it well enough yet though. I think CP edges sounds easier, even if it is slower.

I've never learned full M2. So I'm not god here, but:

Learning OP/OP isn't terrible. With my amazing 1 letter=1 image - 2 images / room in a house Loci memory method I manged to do a 3BLD solve in ~3[~1] minutes.

Most of the memo practice was from mbld.

 

[STOCKY7]

Yeah, I prefer calling it Classic Pochmann.

I plan to learn M2 eventually, I don't understand the concept of it well enough yet though. I think CP edges sounds easier, even if it is slower.

I would really suggest learning OP first. Tbh, for the most basic method, it really isn't that slow. Fast BLD'ers can easily get sub -1 with it.
Once you really grasp it well, it will make M2 sooo much easier to progress to. This is because you will have all the basics like knowledge of how BLD works&solid memo scheme. These will be already in place and so the transition is often quite easy.

And M2 really isn't that hard to learn. Anyone genuinely interested in learning it should search the forums and come the an understanding over their own research, and not be spoon fed everything. I do think this is best for a greater depth of understanding.

 

[tseitsei]

What kind of memo times fast people (sub-10) have on 5BLD?

I have sub-5 memos in good solves but my execution is ~7 minutes and I think it's my execution (well actually memo recall issues) that ruin my solves but I'm not sure...

 

[Randomno]

I would really suggest learning OP first. Tbh, for the most basic method, it really isn't that slow. Fast BLD'ers can easily get sub -1 with it.
Once you really grasp it well, it will make M2 sooo much easier to progress to. This is because you will have all the basics like knowledge of how BLD works&solid memo scheme. These will be already in place and so the transition is often quite easy.

And M2 really isn't that hard to learn. Anyone genuinely interested in learning it should search the forums and come the an understanding over their own research, and not be spoon fed everything. I do think this is best for a greater depth of understanding.

Are there any CP edges guides other than Stefan's website?

 

[Cale S]

Are there any CP edges guides other than Stefan's website?

I learned Old Pochmann edge execution from this video, although I learned everything else from Noah's because he explains everything so well.

What kind of memo times fast people (sub-10) have on 5BLD?

I have sub-5 memos in good solves but my execution is ~7 minutes and I think it's my execution (well actually memo recall issues) that ruin my solves but I'm not sure...

I average 9 minutes and my memo is usually 3:00 - 3:30

 

[MatsBergsten]

What kind of memo times fast people (sub-10) have on 5BLD?

I have sub-5 memos in good solves but my execution is ~7 minutes and I think it's my execution (well actually memo recall issues) that ruin my solves but I'm not sure...

I think 40-50% of the total time. Cale is a fast memorizer but rather slow turner. I exec 5-6 minutes normally and I am about the slowest turner there is in this community.
(My memo is 7-10 minutes). But you should be able to cut at least 2-3 minutes on exec time.

 

[tseitsei]

I think 40-50% of the total time. Cale is a fast memorizer but rather slow turner. I exec 5-6 minutes normally and I am about the slowest turner there is in this community.
(My memo is 7-10 minutes). But you should be able to cut at least 2-3 minutes on exec time.

Yeah that's pretty much what I tought would be the case... Thanks.

 

[tseitsei]

How should I do "PLL" parity in 5BLD?

I mean the case where I have 2 corners swapped and 2 midges swapped at the end of the solve.

My execution order is corners/wings/x-centers/+centers/midges

 

[Remlap]

Sorry wrong place

 

[A Leman]

How should I do "PLL" parity in 5BLD?

I mean the case where I have 2 corners swapped and 2 midges swapped at the end of the solve.

My execution order is corners/wings/x-centers/+centers/midges

My execution order is corners/x-centers/+-centers/ wings/ midges/parity so it's practically the same as yours. The way I did it was this. I memo the large stuff (x,+,wings), then midges with images. I audio loop the corners last, but If I have parity then I place the image for the parity sticker at the end of the journey. In my case I set aside 4 locations for each large piece set and 3 for midges so for 5BLD I set aside 15 locations for the memo so the 16th location is where I would put the parity image. This lets the corner parity be any target. For the midges, My buffer is UF and I always force the edge parity target to be UB which creates a bar. A way to save some moves by having UB as the parity target is to always break into a new cycle at UB first. If your buffer is DF then I'd shoot to UF.

When I finish executing midges and see the parity image, I do Rw2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 Rw2 and then the same parity cases as they would be in 3BLD.

Here's a link to the PLL parity cases:
https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/showthread.php?393-Official-Blindfold-Algorithm-List/page23

The parity images are the letter A followed by the target letter since A is not in my letter scheme. An example would be seeing Ash and doing Rw2 F2 U2 r2 U2 F2 Rw2 L'U-TPERM-U'L

 

[Randomno]

I'm going to letter my cube stickers to help with memo. My orientation is white-top, green-front.

1. Using Speffz, how should I letter it?
2. What should I use to letter it? Just a normal pen?

 

[TDM]

I'm going to letter my cube stickers to help with memo. My orientation is white-top, green-front.

1. Using Speffz, how should I letter it?
2. What should I use to letter it? Just a normal pen?

1. search
2. I wouldn't recommend writing on the cube (but other people may disagree with me for this)

 

[Randomno]

2. I wouldn't recommend writing on the cube (but other people may disagree with me for this)

Why?

Also, I have searched before, it wasn't really clear enough though.

 

[h2f]

Because it's better to force your mind to use your letter scheme. believe me or not it works better if you don't write the cube and you try to remember your scheme in your mind. If you don't have to remember you will not remember

 

[TDM]

Why?

Also, I have searched before, it wasn't really clear enough though.

Because then you have a cube that you can't use for anything else, and it won't take long to learn your letter scheme so after you've learned it you've wasted a cube.

ok, here's my attempt at explaining Speffz, which will probably end badly with nobody understanding anything, just like all my other attempts at explanations:

(just look at corners, centres, and middle edges)
UBL and UB are covered by the 'A' rectangle, so they would be 'A' in your memo.
UBR and UR are covered by 'B', so they would be memorised as 'B'.
[..]
LUB and UL are covered by the letter 'E', so they're memorised as 'E'.
etc.
The reason why I included E as an example was to remind you that UBL and LUB are different stickers, so they have different letters.
(but if you use OP for corners then you won't even have to memorise this letter)

[offtopic]I almost use Speffz, but I miss out Q and X from my memo because they're not very good letters to make letter pairs with. I go all the way to Z as my last letter.[/offtopic]

 

[Randomno]

Because then you have a cube that you can't use for anything else, and it won't take long to learn your letter scheme so after you've learned it you've wasted a cube.

I have a sticker set to replace the old ones when I learn it.

ok, here's my attempt at explaining Speffz, which will probably end badly with nobody understanding anything, just like all my other attempts at explanations:
https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/images/4/49/Speffz.png
(just look at corners, centres, and middle edges)
UBL and UB are covered by the 'A' rectangle, so they would be 'A' in your memo.
UBR and UR are covered by 'B', so they would be memorised as 'B'.
[..]
LUB and UL are covered by the letter 'E', so they're memorised as 'E'.
etc.
The reason why I included E as an example was to remind you that UBL and LUB are different stickers, so they have different letters.
(but if you use OP for corners then you won't even have to memorise this letter)

Good enough explanation for me.

[offtopic]I almost use Speffz, but I miss out Q and X from my memo because they're not very good letters to make letter pairs with. I go all the way to Z as my last letter.[/offtopic]

That's a good idea, but surely Q is more useful than Z.

 

[TDM]

I have a sticker set to replace the old ones when I learn it.

That's a good idea, but surely Q is more useful than Z.

Well I never resticker my cubes (I haven't restickered anything in two years), so I wouldn't have thought of that

Idk, it's up to personal preference for whether or not you miss out letters. I found I preferred Z to Q, but you might find that you prefer Q. Use Q for now, and if you don't have any problems with that then keep using it.