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what would be a good method to learn a speed blind method? i already know classic pochman. which one is the world record method?

First of all, speedblind is not the same as normal BLD. Look it up in the wiki. Secondly, 3-style is the method used by all world-class BLDers. Check my sig for my tutorials.
 

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what would be a good method to learn a speed blind method? i already know classic pochman. which one is the world record method?

If you mean regular BLD (memorize + execute as fast as possible) then 3-style is the best. But the best to move onto would probably be M2 for edges since it's similar to OP, or if you'd rather solve 2 pieces at a time then try TuRBo.

If you mean proper SpeedBLD then the WR was done with Roux by Alex Yau. If this is the case, then using a regular BLD method won't necessarily be the fastest, nor is it in the true spirit of SpeedBLD. Any speedsolving method is fine, many use CFOP. Read Lucas's tips.
 

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Hi im having problems with BLD.
Im using the beginner method I found in the thread: "How to Solve a Rubik's Cube Blindfolded"
Aka old pochman?

My question:
Could someone be so kind to supply me with the "solution" (ie what pieces to move where, like when you memorize it) for a scramble and the scramble it self. Im making mistakes I want to find out if it is in what moves I make or just that I am sloppy or something.

Example scramble: D L R' D2 U F2 L U' B U B F2 D2 R' U L' B2 F2 R L F2 L U2 F2
 

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Example scramble: D L R' D2 U F2 L U' B U B F2 D2 R' U L' B2 F2 R L F2 L U2 F2
scramble in your solving orientation.
algs: old pochmann yperm: R U' R' U' R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R
T-perm: R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U' R U R' F'
J-Perm a: R' U2 R U R' U2' L U' R U L'
J-Perm b: R U R' F' R U R' U' R' F R2 U' R' U'
left R-perm: R U' R' U' R U R D R' U' R D' R' U2 R' U' (parity)

memo edges: LB, DF, DR, BR, DL, UF, UB, FR, UL, FL, UL
corners: DLB, DRB, BRU, DLF, FLU, FRU, RDF

solving corners:
D F' yperm F D'
R2 F yperm F' R2
R' F yperm F' R
F' yperm F
F' D yperm D' F
R2 D' yperm D R2
yperm
r-perm (parity)

edges
d L' tperm L d'
D' L2 tperm L2 D
D2 L2 tperm L2 D2
d2 L' tperm L d2
L2 tperm L2
jperm b
jperm a
d2 L tperm L' d2
tperm
L' tperm L
tperm
 

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Hey i have started bld 3x3 yesterday..i have learnt the method OP (i have learnt how to do bld with zane tutorial)
I tried solving it blindfolded 5-10 times..but everytime i end up with 2-3 edges or 1-2 corners unsolved.. :( i dont know why and when i do the cube with eye open (with OP method) i can do the whole cube but not with eyes closed..
I dont have any problems with memorization..
Please help me...so that i can solve my cube completely..
 

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Hey i have started bld 3x3 yesterday..i have learnt the method OP (i have learnt how to do bld with zane tutorial)
I tried solving it blindfolded 5-10 times..but everytime i end up with 2-3 edges or 1-2 corners unsolved.. :( i dont know why and when i do the cube with eye open (with OP method) i can do the whole cube but not with eyes closed..
I dont have any problems with memorization..
Please help me...so that i can solve my cube completely..

5-10 fails is not bad for a beginner. Having only a few pieces wrong is actually good.
Try doing a post mortem of your solve. After solving blindfolded, do the same scramble with your eyes opened so you find out where you made the mistake.
 

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Hey i have started bld 3x3 yesterday..i have learnt the method OP (i have learnt how to do bld with zane tutorial)
I tried solving it blindfolded 5-10 times..but everytime i end up with 2-3 edges or 1-2 corners unsolved.. :( i dont know why and when i do the cube with eye open (with OP method) i can do the whole cube but not with eyes closed..
I dont have any problems with memorization..
Please help me...so that i can solve my cube completely..

Perhaps you're not used to breaking into new cycles?
 

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Perhaps you're not used to breaking into new cycles?

I also think that might be the case, you can forget that when you break into a new cycle you need to put that piece back there, which is kinda obvious when you are watching.

Other possibilities are parities, check them.

Just do the following, memo a solve, write it down and solve it sighted following your notes, I bet you'll get what isn't working.
 

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What you would say is the time limit for using M2 edges and Old Pochmann corners? assuming the memo will never get shorter than 20 seconds
is it possible to sub 1? if you're really good at BLD, how long does it take you to execute M2 + old pochmann?
 

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What you would say is the time limit for using M2 edges and Old Pochmann corners? assuming the memo will never get shorter than 20 seconds
is it possible to sub 1? if you're really good at BLD, how long does it take you to execute M2 + old pochmann?

It's definitely possible to sub 1 with sup-20 memo, I've done it a few times. I have a 59 with 24 memo (video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikgw63a85c&feature=youtu.be) When I only used M2/OP, averaging 1:20, I think my execution was approximately 45s on average. I don't know what the limit could be, maybe very low 40's (for average)?
 

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Got My First Success Yesterday in 3bld.. :D
But I write the edges and corners letters on a paper and memorize them then solve the cube..
And Only One time I have solved it bld..most of the time i end up with 3 misplaced edges arranged like a u perm...why is this so..can anyone tell me..?
Why this u perm occurs most of the time..?
 

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Got My First Success Yesterday in 3bld.. :D
But I write the edges and corners letters on a paper and memorize them then solve the cube..
And Only One time I have solved it bld..most of the time i end up with 3 misplaced edges arranged like a u perm...why is this so..can anyone tell me..?
Why this u perm occurs most of the time..?
Film yourself while solving to see where you go wrong...
It could be not fixing parity, maybe you do some setup moves wrong or you execute to wrong places which you memorized right.
 
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