[Help Thread] CFOP Discussion

[Garf]

I guess this is like an intro, if then welcome to the forums!! Look ahead kinda comes along with practice but try not to look at your pair while solving it. Also learn a few algs for f2l.

I agree, but I would say get good at F2L before getting good tracking pieces, then predicting where they will go.

 

[JJJAY]

Hi everyone
I have been cubing for 6 months
I average 27 sec using 2look oll
and full pll
What's the best way to improve look ahead I need some advices and how to practice look ahead
Thanks for reading

How much time do u spend cubing everyday

 

[B class cuber]

Sometimes 2 hours
Sometimes I don't touch the cube for a hole week
I only watch jperm tutorials
I advice you to do the same

 

[Eli Apperson]

I only watch jperm tutorials
I advice you to do the same

That is a terrible idea. I think he has a QnA about this, but if you only watch one creator, you could be limiting what information you are getting.
Lets say he explains something you don't understand, but you still don't get it. That skill that you didn't learn could be holding you back. Watch multiple videos on different topics, don't idolize one creator.

 

[Garf]

Sometimes 2 hours
Sometimes I don't touch the cube for a hole week
I only watch jperm tutorials
I advice you to do the same

That is a terrible idea. I think he has a QnA about this, but if you only watch one creator, you could be limiting what information you are getting.
Lets say he explains something you don't understand, but you still don't get it. That skill that you didn't learn could be holding you back. Watch multiple videos on different topics, don't idolize one creator.

Well, jperm is a good creator, but I have to agree with CubableYT here. There is another source by Feliks called cubeskills, basically a sight that teaches you how to solve the cube within modules.

 

[OtterCuber]

Well, jperm is a good creator, but I have to agree with CubableYT here. There is another source by Feliks called cubeskills, basically a sight that teaches you how to solve the cube within modules.

I second this. Use multiple videos and sites. Some algs from cubeskills are outdated, so you should also check out newer channels.

 

[Eli Apperson]

I second this. Use multiple videos and sites. Some algs from cubeskills are outdated, so you should also check out newer channels.

As well as sites like speedcubedb

 

[Garf]

I second this. Use multiple videos and sites. Some algs from cubeskills are outdated, so you should also check out newer channels.

Well, you could use the tutorials from cubeskills, but the fingertricks and algs from jperm, and drill them on cs timer, then you will be improving really quick.

 

[OreKehStrah]

Well the first thing is that you don’t need to look ahead at your skill level. This is something discussed frequently including in j perm videos. For now just learn full PLL and make sure you know how to properly solve all the basic F2L cases and have good fingertricks. Then once you have PLL down start working on OLL. Finally start learning more advanced F2L tricks. You don’t really need to worry about look ahead until roughly sub15 ish, and ideally by then your F2L solutions will be in your muscle memory so you can look ahead.

 

[Garf]

Well the first thing is that you don’t need to look ahead at your skill level. This is something discussed frequently including in j perm videos. For now just learn full PLL and make sure you know how to properly solve all the basic F2L cases and have good fingertricks. Then once you have PLL down start working on OLL. Finally start learning more advanced F2L tricks. You don’t really need to worry about look ahead until roughly sub15 ish, and ideally by then your F2L solutions will be in your muscle memory so you can look ahead.

Yeah. There is a time where look-ahead is dead useful, and you are not at that level yet that look-ahead is useful yet. Instead, focus on speeding up your weakest steps, work on last layer algorithms, and whatnot.

 

[Thom S.]

Hi everyone
I have been cubing for 6 months
I average 27 sec using 2look oll
and full pll
What's the best way to improve look ahead I need some advices and how to practice look ahead
Thanks for reading

It sounds like stating the obvious, but what helped me the most improving lookahead is.
Don't look at what you are doing, iven if it's only 3 moves ahead, look only to other pieces and what you're about to do.
This requires that you can execute virtually every algorithm without thinking and looking.

 

[@slow cuber]

Hello everyone.

I am a new cuber. I just started and my times are sub 40. I use CFOP with 2loll and 2lpll. Any tips or advice on how to get sub 30?


Thank you!

 

[JJJAY]

That is a terrible idea. I think he has a QnA about this, but if you only watch one creator, you could be limiting what information you are getting.
Lets say he explains something you don't understand, but you still don't get it. That skill that you didn't learn could be holding you back. Watch multiple videos on different topics, don't idolize one creator.

I usually watch Jperm, Z3Cubung, cube head, broady and many more

 

[Eli Apperson]

I usually watch Jperm, Z3Cubung, cube head, broady and many more

Smart decision

 

[SteelyTheCuber]

PLEASE HELP, Im cursed with sub 25 solves on the 3x3. For refernce I use CFOP I only know 2 look in both, please help.

 

[Garf]

PLEASE HELP, Im cursed with sub 25 solves on the 3x3. For refernce I use CFOP I only know 2 look in both, please help.

Get good at F2L. Learn how to do cases fast and then that curse will be lifted

 

[GenTheSnail]

Learn full pll and then full oll

Go through an F2L document and compare each of the solutions there to how you would solve them. Understand what the algs are doing and then start incorporating them in your solves. You will ultimately get slower because its something new, but if you stick with it for a week or two you will get significantly faster. Once you can look at a pair and instantly solve it without looking at it or even thinking about it you'll be a in a very good place. Because you won't need to think about the current pair you're currently doing, you can start looking to your next solve.

Then do 10000 solves and your curse will be broken. This is essentially the process you'll need to follow all the way until sub9

 

[Garf]

Learn full pll and then full oll

Go through an F2L document and compare each of the solutions there to how you would solve them. Understand what the algs are doing and then start incorporating them in your solves. You will ultimately get slower because its something new, but if you stick with it for a week or two you will get significantly faster. Once you can look at a pair and instantly solve it without looking at it or even thinking about it you'll be a in a very good place. Because you won't need to think about the current pair you're currently doing, you can start looking to your next solve.

Then do 10000 solves and your curse will be broken. This is essentially the process you'll need to follow all the way until sub9

Look, I like your idea here, but you do NoT need to know full OLL to be sub-20. And he does not need to go through an algorithm sheet. Or even know how to use look-ahead.
Listen, @SteelyTheCuber, you just have to learn how to do advanced F2L fast and full PLL. Then go through some vids on how to do finger tricks for F2L. THEN you do about 500-1000 slow solves to drill what you learned and 1000-2000 times solves to see how much forward progress you have made. Only then have you broken your curse.

 

[DuckubingCuber347]

Look, I like your idea here, but you do NoT need to know full OLL to be sub-20. And he does not need to go through an algorithm sheet. Or even know how to use look-ahead.
Listen, @SteelyTheCuber, you just have to learn how to do advanced F2L fast and full PLL. Then go through some vids on how to do finger tricks for F2L. THEN you do about 500-1000 slow solves to drill what you learned and 1000-2000 times solves to see how much forward progress you have made. Only then have you broken your curse.

You also don't need advanced F2L or full PLL to be sub-20 but all those things help you in your journey so it's perfectly fine to suggest it, but OLL still isn't the most important thing at that level.

Edit: 1000 slow solves is a lot to ask and way to much for most people that average what he does. Slow solves are for diagnosing your problems in F2L and working on fixing them and if you average twenty-five seconds you're probably still learning how things work.

 

[cuberswoop]

I use 3 Look OLL in my solves, full PLL, simple F2L, 6-7 move crosses, and I am consistently sub-20. It's just part of a grind of solving and learning new algs.