The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[edward_9x]

Not sure if this exact idea has been proposed before:
1. Use a method like 2GR, YruRU or CEOR to get to EOCPF2L-1
2. Build last pair
3. Insert the pair while solving everything (I've been told this is 324 algs, and the math does indeed check out)

Pros:
- 1LLSLL every time
- 2 gen
- Is very cool and good

Cons:
- Probably it isn't any more efficient than just doing LS+2GLL
- Harder to recog than 2GLL (?)
- Lots of algs

 

[Averageof12]

No, I think that idea is different. My method builds two separate blocks. The name stands for 2 Block Last 2 sides

 

[ruffleduck]

2. Build last pair
3. Insert the pair while solving everything (I've been told this is 324 algs, and the math does indeed check out)

If you are doing two step LSLL, why not solve last pair then do 2GLL? Way fewer algs and way better recognition. Movecount probably isn't too different

 

[Averageof12]

BSOP-Block, Square, OLL Skip, PLL

Steps:

1. Solve a 2x2x3 block on the left.
2. Do EOSquare. This means solvin EO while also solving a 1x2x2 square into the back right.
3. Create your last pair. Before inserting it, do a WVLS case.
4. Do PLL.

 

[OtaMota]

BSOP-Block, Square, OLL Skip, PLL

Steps:

1. Solve a 2x2x3 block on the left.
2. Do EOSquare. This means solvin EO while also solving a 1x2x2 square into the back right.
3. Create your last pair. Before inserting it, do a WVLS case.
4. Do PLL.

ABP but 2 steps solving slightly different things

 

[PapaSmurf]

BSOP-Block, Square, OLL Skip, PLL

Steps:

1. Solve a 2x2x3 block on the left.
2. Do EOSquare. This means solvin EO while also solving a 1x2x2 square into the back right.
3. Create your last pair. Before inserting it, do a WVLS case.
4. Do PLL.

Literally just bad Petrus and not a new method.

2BL-an interesting 3x3 method

Summary:

1. Create a 2x2 block in the back left bottom section of the cube.
2. Solve a 2x2x3 block in the top front part of the cube.
3. Solve the rest in 1 alg.

Obviously, I am working on the algset for step 3, but I think that this method has
potential.

Pros:
-Low move count
-Intuitive method
-Low step count

Cons:
-High alg count for alg
-Difficult lookahead

This suffers from the flaw of terrible lookahead and probably not great algs because the pieces are all over the place, unless I am mistaken. Maybe an example solve would be helpful.

 

[Averageof12]

Has anyone heard of this method?
1.Solve a 2x2x3 on the left.
2.Solve the rest of the first two layers while doing EO.
3.Do a ZBLL alg.

This is basically just advanced petrus, and it reduces step count and lookahead is quite easy.

 

[ProStar]

Has anyone heard of this method?
1.Solve a 2x2x3 on the left.
2.Solve the rest of the first two layers while doing EO.
3.Do a ZBLL alg.

This is basically just advanced petrus, and it reduces step count and lookahead is quite easy.

This is Petrus except you’ve inexplicably combined the EO and F2L steps. What technique would you use to accomplish this without losing out on speed?

 

[Averageof12]

Could you explain what you mean?

 

[Deleted member 36445]

Has anyone heard of this method?
1.Solve a 2x2x3 on the left.
2.Solve the rest of the first two layers while doing EO.
3.Do a ZBLL alg.

This is basically just advanced petrus, and it reduces step count and lookahead is quite easy.

I would classify this as FreeFOP

 

[Deleted member 36445]

What about This 3x3 method:

1. Solve one corner anywhere in the cube
2. Solve the rest in one alg

Pro: sometimes you skip step 1
Cons: high alg count

 

[bldcuber314]

What about This 3x3 method:

1. Solve one corner anywhere in the cube
2. Solve the rest in one alg

Pro: sometimes you skip step 1
Cons: high alg count

This sounds like a great method! How about you generate all the algs? I'll do some for you-
U
U'
R'
R
M2- alternate alg R' M' Rw

I'll leave you to it!

 

[fes_77]

@pjk please delete this thread.

This isn't your thread

 

[JDAW6]

This isn't your thread

Another thread was merged here, duh.

 

[fes_77]

Another thread was merged here, duh.

Wdymm

 

[Averageof12]

This isn't your thread

?

 

[TheSpeedSkewber]

Wdymm

A similar standalone thread was created that proposed a new method that should have been put in this already existing thread so it was merged into the end of this thread.

 

[Averageof12]

Has anyone ever heard of this method?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k_63O3-QTAyMyKuRynbmNyc2vpfafgk9vYHa_DBtm4w/edit

 

[OtaMota]

Has anyone ever heard of this method?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k_63O3-QTAyMyKuRynbmNyc2vpfafgk9vYHa_DBtm4w/edit

I need access

 

[Averageof12]

I can't do that right now, but I can do it tonight.