The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[DoAnKhang]

So this is just twisted zz-ct but worse cuz no EO

no Its better because it doesn't require EO and more CFOP based, similar to ZB

 

[Twisted101]

no Its better because it doesn't require EO and more CFOP based, similar to ZB

So what you are saying is that learning 780 algs is better rather than 300 algs but do 4 moves at the start of the solve and be Rotationless along with having better ergo and being more efficient.

Bro you actually need to think when making a method

 

[DoAnKhang]

So what you are saying is that learning 780 algs is better rather than 300 algs but do 4 moves at the start of the solve and be Rotationless along with having better ergo and being more efficient.

Bro you actually need to think when making a method

4 moves is a lot at the top level and some people use method like ZB just to save those 4 moves, but I feel like this is going to be another CFOP VS ZZ debate

 

[Twisted101]

I just found the actual alg count: 1032 algs.

172(VLS but specifically ignoring permutation of corners and making sure that when 2 corners are unoriented one of them is the DFR)

Multiplied by 3 for the 3 different corner twisted pairs

Then multiplying by two for the cases

 

[Thom S.]

some people use method like ZB

Name 2 active Cubers that use ZB.

 

[Twisted101]

Name 2 active Cubers that use ZB.

Juliette Sebastian and Tao Yu use it i think

 

[DoAnKhang]

Name 2 active Cubers that use ZB.

Tao Yu and Anthony Brooks

 

[Twisted101]

r u confident ur method is good?

 

[DoAnKhang]

I just found the actual alg count: 1032 algs.

172(VLS but specifically ignoring permutation of corners and making sure that when 2 corners are unoriented one of them is the DFR)

Multiplied by 3 for the 3 different corner twisted pairs

Then multiplying by two for the cases

why "Multiplied by 3 for the 3 different corner twisted pairs" I dont understand

 

[Twisted101]

why "Multiplied by 3 for the 3 different corner twisted pairs"

172 is just for when the UFL corner is twisted to the left like in standard LS algs, we need to multiply by 3 for the other corner twisted sets

i don’t think this alg count is right I am gonna try and calculate it differently

 

[Twisted101]

Okay i got the proper alg count now 532 algs

28 (EO cases with all angles)

multiplied by 19 (CO specifically ignoring DFR corner and one other corner

=532

 

[Twisted101]

I just realized how complex the recog is you have to recog: Position and orientation of FR edge, orientation of U edges, Orient the 3 corners that are going to be in the UFR UFL and UBR, ignore the orientation of the corners the white corner and ignore the orientation of specifically the corner that is going to be in the DFR position

 

[DoAnKhang]

Okay i got the proper alg count now 532 algs

28 (EO cases with all angles)

multiplied by 19 (CO specifically ignoring DFR corner and one other corner

=532

 

[Twisted101]

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So? this isn’t VLS lol

 

[Thom S.]

Tao Yu

Tao Yu

I said ZB, not ZBLL

 

[Twisted101]

I said ZB, not ZBLL

I must have just gotten confused by this video then sry: but then there is still Juliette Sebastien and Anthony Brooks

 

[Swagrid]

4 moves is a lot at the top level and some people use method like ZB just to save those 4 moves, but I feel like this is going to be another CFOP VS ZZ debate

alternatively, use Roux and save 10-15 moves.

 

[DoAnKhang]

So this isn’t VLS lol

Why?

 

[DoAnKhang]

alternatively, use Roux and save 10-15 moves.

or you can just use Petrus

 

[Twisted101]

Why?

Cuz this literally is not VLS it doesn’t orient everything u dumb or smth