The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[gyroninja]

so, we need some ZZ-D missing link here...
I suggest we all focus our efforts on figuring out the missing link...

porky v2

 

[Shiv3r]

I meaeant pure ZZ-D, but Ill check it out.

 

[gyroninja]

I meaeant pure ZZ-D, but Ill check it out.

Is there a difference?

zz-d: Solve cp during left block
porky v2: Solve cp during left block

Looks the same to me.

 

[Teoidus]

I guess he might want to develop a way to recog which swap is needed without having to push right block corners to a specific location?

Either way, I'm not convinced ZZ-d is the way to go. RUD algs can be very fast (basically just 2gen with pretty ergonomic D push/pulls inbetween) and forcing left block -> right block kills efficiency and lucky cases pretty hard.

 

[gyroninja]

I guess he might want to develop a way to recog which swap is needed without having to push right block corners to a specific location?

Either way, I'm not convinced ZZ-d is the way to go. RUD algs can be very fast (basically just 2gen with pretty ergonomic D push/pulls inbetween) and forcing left block -> right block kills efficiency and lucky cases pretty hard.

I heard somewhere that porky v2 was like usually only one or two moves from optimal cp so I think it would be the best option. Else you would be making it hard on you.

 

[Teoidus]

Yeah, it would be 2 max with the setup moves.

Have people looked into a sort of free EO-blockbuilding variant of ZZ?

 

[gyroninja]

Yeah, it would be 2 max with the setup moves.

Have people looked into a sort of free EO-blockbuilding variant of ZZ?

It's kind of hard to block build (not like zz's f2l) and preserve eo at the same time.

It's like the equivalent of a xcross which you would see in cfop though when people do use it.

 

[AlphaSheep]

Is there a difference?

zz-d: Solve cp during left block
porky v2: Solve cp during left block

Looks the same to me.

Not quite. ZZ-d was a proposal to solve CP during the first block. This was thought to be impractical to recognise in a speedsolve. The search for the so called "missing link" was a way of recognising CP that is practical for use in speedsolves. You said we should search for this missing link.

Porky v2 is a system for recognising and solving CP for ZZ-d that is practical for use in a speedsolve. Therefore Porky v2 fills the gap and there is no more missing link.

 

[gyroninja]

Not quite. ZZ-d was a proposal to solve CP during the first block. This was thought to be impractical to recognise in a speedsolve. The search for the so called "missing link" was a way of recognising CP that is practical for use in speedsolves. You said we should search for this missing link.

Porky v2 is a system for recognising and solving CP for ZZ-d that is practical for use in a speedsolve. Therefore Porky v2 fills the gap and there is no more missing link.

Check the username.

 

[AlphaSheep]

Check the username.

Oops. Haha... Thought I was replying to @Shiv3r

 

[SaCuber22]

I have created a new 2x2 method and my friend has created a new 3x3 method. How do I confirm that it is indeed a new method and how do I patent it or something?

 

[Daniel Lin]

what are the methods?
check the speedsolving wiki to see if they're new
I don't think you can patent them lol

 

[SaCuber22]

So then won't anyone else steal the method and pass it of as their own?

 

[Teoidus]

lol, what are the steps? No one's going to pass it off as their own if it hasn't been invented before.

 

[goodatthis]

Try the new method/substep thread and also the speedsolving wiki. I'd say 99% of the time it's either a slight alteration of a previously established method or it's a previously established method, I thought I "invented" the belt method and PCMS (like a lot of people) until I realized it's already been created.

Anyway, what's the general outline of the method? I can tell you if it's been created before.

 

[SaCuber22]

Solve the first layer on a 2x2 and the fit the corners in using algs from 3x3 beginners method.

 

[Me]

No need for a patent, cubing methods aren't high proprietary technologies like volume rendering algorithms or swinging on a swing.

 

[GenTheSnail]

I have created a new 2x2 method and my friend has created a new 3x3 method. How do I confirm that it is indeed a new method and how do I patent it or something?

Solve the first layer on a 2x2 and the fit the corners in using algs from 3x3 beginners method.

You mean this?
https://www.speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/LBL
Whats your friend 3x3 method like? Have you checked the wiki to make sure it really is new?

 

[Rcuber123]

Or u could just use LBL

 

[Teoidus]

Yeah, this is basically LBL.

No need for a patent, cubing methods aren't high proprietary technologies like volume rendering algorithms or swinging on a swing.

Hoooly damn it's thrawst
Your channel got me into cubing, nice to see you're still active somewhat