[Help Thread] F2L Discussion and Help

[MarkA64]

Track other pieces as you solve pairs.

 

[Owen Morrison]

What do you average?

 

[martinba314]

15-16ish.

 

[Micah Morrison]

can you set uo a specific f2l case or cases you're atruggling with and maybe I can help you find a good solution?

 

[martinba314]

There are so many F2L algorithms out there that it's overwhelming. Would it be enough to just learn all of the algorithms shown in JPerm's F2L Tricks series?

Also, besides look-ahead, what's the main thing that separates the F2L of someone that is say, sub-8, from someone else?

 

[brododragon]

There are so many F2L algorithms out there that it's overwhelming. Would it be enough to just learn all of the algorithms shown in JPerm's F2L Tricks series?

I would generally recommend against F2L algs, but if you want to learn them, just learn bad case algs.

 

[Micah Morrison]

There are so many F2L algorithms out there that it's overwhelming. Would it be enough to just learn all of the algorithms shown in JPerm's F2L Tricks series?

Also, besides look-ahead, what's the main thing that separates the F2L of someone that is say, sub-8, from someone else?

I wouldn't learn ALL the algs in J perm's f2l tricks videos. I would just learn some that significantly reduce moves and/or rotations while still being finger trick friendly that you think would actually make a difference in your time if you got that case. As for the second question, I'm personally sub 9, and I would say the top three things I do in f2l that might differ from someone around 15-20 seconds is 1. Lookahead 2. Planning first f2l pair in inspection 3. minimizing regrips in f2l. This can be done by flicking or pushing U moves with your left hand like in OH so that your thumbs stay on the front of the cube as much as possible. Some fingertricks to consider for minimizing regrips are the left hand U, the left hand U2', and the right hand U'. Also make sure your doing right hand U2's on lefty f2l solutions but not righty f2l solutions.

 

[MarkA64]

How would you solve this case if it were to go in the back left slot?

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AKA if you did a y2 then proceeded to solve it without rotating

 

[Micah Morrison]

How would you solve this case if it were to go in the back left slot?

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AKA if you did a y2 then proceeded to solve it without rotating

(F U R U' R' F') U' L U2 L'

 

[TheoryOfQuantum]

I'm currently having problems with F2L. Main problems is that I'm wasting moves and I'm not pairing quick enough. My range for F2L( because it changes from time to time) is from 20 to 40. HELP!!!!
Btw How to do do look ahead?

 

[Owen Morrison]

Watch J perms videos about F2L, make sure that you aren't doing 2 rotations to solve any pair, and f you do learn an alg for it that uses 1 or 0 rotations. Also any case that you hate and you think takes you forever try to learn a new alg for it.

To look ahead you need to have all of your F2L cases drilled pretty well. You need to be able to look at an F2L pair for 1 second or less and be able to solve it blindfolded. But instead of putting on a blindfold you look at the other pieces on the cube to try to see what your next pair will be.

Also, how long have you been using CFOP?

 

[brododragon]

Lol the answer every question is "go watch J Perm's vid". It's not bad, just funny.

 

[BenChristman1]

Lol the answer every question is "go watch J Perm's vid". It's not bad, just funny.

Or, (in my case) "there is already thread for this, here it is:"

EDIT: I will admit, in my first few weeks on the forums, I was guilty of making threads for stuff that already existed, so...

 

[Sub1Hour]

EDIT: I will admit, in my first few weeks on the forums, I was guilty of making threads for stuff that already existed, so...

Well, it's fine to make threads if the existing ones are dead. But the F2L thread is far from dead.

 

[brododragon]

Or, (in my case) "there is already thread for this, here it is:"

Or in the case of @Cubingcubecuber (or is it @Cubinwitdapizza?): "THERE'S ALREADY ALREADY A THREAD"

 

[TheoryOfQuantum]

Watch J perms videos about F2L, make sure that you aren't doing 2 rotations to solve any pair, and f you do learn an alg for it that uses 1 or 0 rotations. Also any case that you hate and you think takes you forever try to learn a new alg for it.

To look ahead you need to have all of your F2L cases drilled pretty well. You need to be able to look at an F2L pair for 1 second or less and be able to solve it blindfolded. But instead of putting on a blindfold you look at the other pieces on the cube to try to see what your next pair will be.

Also, how long have you been using CFOP?

For around 1 or 2 week. Though I've improved and I gotten to 1 min.

 

[TheRouxGuy]

Try the F2L algorithms by Ruimin Yan. They are great and he has many algs for lefties, OH and feet. Some are really great to fingetrick.
Here's the link: https://www.cuberoot.me/f2l/

 

[Skittleskp]

I have a general suggestion that I think you should take now. I usually suggest starting off being color neutral, but if you're already having trouble with F2L you should be color neutral now so you don't have to go through that again.

 

[Owen Morrison]

I have a general suggestion that I think you should take now. I usually suggest starting off being color neutral, but if you're already having trouble with F2L you should be color neutral now so you don't have to go through that again.

Yes you should become color neutral RIGHT NOW.

For around 1 or 2 week. Though I've improved and I gotten to 1 min.

Improving takes time, It usually takes several months to fully get the hang of F2L, depending on how much you practice.

 

[Kaneki Uchiha]

whenever i solve i have these long pauses while doing f2l
can someone give me some tips