Blindsolving Discussion and Help

[Phlippieskezer]

@Mike Hughey: Wow, I never even considered changing rooms. Thanks. My memo still takes really long in comparison to what I see on the forums (2-3 min). Interesting bit of information. Many thanks. I guess I'll have to go about changing the way I memo (a little bit), too.

 

[Noahaha]

I'd recommend a Y' to make the insertion more fingertrick friendly.
Edit: Fs really suck IMO.

Of course, but at his stage that's not what he should be worrying about.

 

[drewsopchak]

Of course, but at his stage that's not what he should be worrying about.

Better to learn good habits early before bad ones become too ingrained.

 

[Noahaha]

Better to learn good habits early before bad ones become too ingrained.

Erm yes, but when we're just talking about the different shapes of cycles, that's not really relevant and will only confuse the issue. You do bring up a good point and that's something Riley should keep in mind for the future.

 

[drewsopchak]

[you] will only confuse the issue.

I doubt it. Whatever...

 

[drewsopchak]

What is the standard memo/execution sequence for Multibld? People seem to execute edges first, corners last. Why?
I've been doing:
1. memo cube one corners and then edges
2. memo cube two corners and then edges
3. solve cube two corners and then edges
4. solve cube one corners and edges
Of course I do more cubes but hopefully I'm clear.

 

[Julian]

People seem to execute edges first, corners last. Why?

I solve edges first because for advanced M2/OP, parity is nicer that way.

 

[Noahaha]

I solve edges first because for advanced M2/OP, parity is nicer that way.

This.

My own question to any experienced BH user:

I'm trying to get up to full BH edges, but I noticed recently that a lot of alg lists involve lots of R U and M U cycles that aren't necessarily intuitive. These would replace more awkward pure commutators if I learn them. Should I start learning these right away, or should I wait until I can do full BH edges with pure commutators and then start adding the special cases?

NOTE: I do use some M U 7 movers that are 1-move setups to 5 movers, but not 2 move setups.

 

[riffz]

I'd say start adding the special cases only after you can solve each position with a normal commutator.

 

[Noahaha]

I'd say start adding the special cases only after you can solve each position with a normal commutator.

Thanks. That's what my instinct was. I've been using your lists when I badly need a nice alg.

 

[DrKorbin]

I've been using your lists

Riffz, could you please provide your lists of algs for edges? I have a couple of weird cases and want to learn good algs.

 

[Applecow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuQyS2mqoMAMdHFkbmF5Vm5sSFUzM2dtQzRLLXRHaWc&hl=en#gid=0

 

[drewsopchak]

This.

My own question to any experienced BH user:

I'm trying to get up to full BH edges, but I noticed recently that a lot of alg lists involve lots of R U and M U cycles that aren't necessarily intuitive. These would replace more awkward pure commutators if I learn them. Should I start learning these right away, or should I wait until I can do full BH edges with pure commutators and then start adding the special cases?

NOTE: I do use some M U 7 movers that are 1-move setups to 5 movers, but not 2 move setups.

Could you give an example? BH is supposed to grouped in such a way as to make it intuitive.

 

[vd]

I have also one question for any experienced BH user/freestyler. I average about 1:15-1:20 (pb 0:57) with slightly simplified BH. Memo takes me like 30 secs usually (sometimes even around 20, I use sentences/audio), corner execution like 20 secs and edges execution including parity like 25 secs. What part of solving should I work on now? (I know its subjective, but still - what do you think Im worst at)

 

[A Leman]

I have also one question for any experienced BH user/freestyler. I average about 1:15-1:20 (pb 0:57) with slightly simplified BH. Memo takes me like 30 secs usually (sometimes even around 20, I use sentences/audio), corner execution like 20 secs and edges execution including parity like 25 secs. What part of solving should I work on now? (I know its subjective, but still - what do you think Im worst at)

CORNERS

 

[Noahaha]

Could you give an example? BH is supposed to grouped in such a way as to make it intuitive.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuQyS2mqoMAMdHFkbmF5Vm5sSFUzM2dtQzRLLXRHaWc&hl=en#gid=0
Look at cases like CF and CD.

I have also one question for any experienced BH user/freestyler. I average about 1:15-1:20 (pb 0:57) with slightly simplified BH. Memo takes me like 30 secs usually (sometimes even around 20, I use sentences/audio), corner execution like 20 secs and edges execution including parity like 25 secs. What part of solving should I work on now? (I know its subjective, but still - what do you think Im worst at)

I would say memo, most others would probably say execution. You're not really off-balance, so I would just work on everything. You should be pushing your memo every day, which means memoing faster than you think you can and then forcing yourself to finish the solve even if you forget. To practice execution, after every solve if you had a bad cycle, drill it 5-10 times.

 

[vd]

Thank you both guys, I will probably have a look on some speed-optimized corner cycles and also I will practice a lot. There is nothing like practice, after all...

 

[drewsopchak]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuQyS2mqoMAMdHFkbmF5Vm5sSFUzM2dtQzRLLXRHaWc&hl=en#gid=0
Look at cases like CF and CD.

That spreadsheet is Riffz edges. Not all of it is BH. CD and CF aren't commutators.
EDIT: riffz doesn't use BH, he uses 3style.

 

[Noahaha]

That spreadsheet is Riffz edges. Not all of it is BH. CD and CF aren't commutators.
EDIT: riffz doesn't use BH, he uses 3style.

I've never really bothered to learn the terminology lol.

 

[Phlippieskezer]

Please excuse my ignorance, as I couldn't find it on the wiki, but what is 3style (/where can I find out), and how does it differ to BH?