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Skittleskp

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While fiddling around with my 3x3 I discovered a new, faster Aa Perm alg similar to a T-Perm.

The notation for this case is very simple as it's the same thing as the T-Perm but with lowercase r moves instead of uppercase R moves.

Here is the new alg: (r U r' U') (r' F r2 U') r' U' (r U r' F')
Here is T-Perm: (R U R' U') (R' F R2 U') R' U' (R U R' F')
Commonly used Aa Perm: x (R' U R') D2 (R U' R') D2 R2 x'

The only thing different about pre-auf with this Aa Perm compared to the Aa perm with "D" moves, is that you hold the cube with headlights on the left.

I truly believe that this Aa Perm is better and more fingertrick friendly because you don't need cube rotations to execute this alg. It's also better for people like me who are too lazy to learn algs;).

Although I know most people are going to continue to use the Aa Perm used by many pro cubers, I think that it's good to have this as an option. If you happen to have an Aa Perm case set up with headlights on the left then go for it!

Edit: Glitch with underlines. Fixed.
 

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Here's some better algorithms than wide T-Perm-
L' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R r
F U2 R' D' R U' R' D R U' F'
R2 D R2 D' F2 R2 U' R2 U F2

But I still think the 9-move x RUD alg is the best...
Thanks!
Personally, I don't like the RUD alg because of hand surgery affecting my fingertricks so this is really helpful!

Also, I like marching band too. Drums and tuba.

This isn't new. This is literally the most commonly proposed alg. It's not good, it's significantly slower than the RUD alg. RUD can be sub-1 easily, wide T perm not so much. Also, the RUD alg isn't hard to learn at all, it's just 9 moves.

Also, just try doing a wide T Perm on 4x4+ at high TPS...
;) Sry didn't know this was so common. In my post, I said this was just personal preference so if you like RUD better than you do you but just let me do my own thing.:cool:
 

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New(?) N perm algs:
Na: R U R' U' R' U' R U F' U' F U' R' U2 F R F'
Nb: R U' R' U y' R' U R U' R' F' U F R U R' U' R

The Nb alg has a rotation and another minor regrip, but still seems pretty fast (compared to other Nb algs I've tried). The Na alg is regrip hell and probably won't be faster than the common Jb-setup alg for most people.

(exercise for the reader: explain why Na has similar blocks to Jb and Nb to Ja, instead of the other way around)
 
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New(?) N perm algs:
Na: R U R' U' R' U' R U F' U' F U' R' U2 F R F'
Nb: R U' R' U y' R' U R U' R' F' U F R U R' U' R

The Nb alg has a rotation and another minor regrip, but still seems pretty fast (compared to other Nb algs I've tried). The Na alg is regrip hell and probably won't be faster than the common Jb-setup alg for most people.

(exercise for the reader: explain why Na has similar blocks to Jb and Nb to Ja, instead of the other way around)
My fav Nb:
R' U R' F R F' R U' R' F' U F R U R' U' R
 

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Strange. It appears the more commonly done version of this alg (M2' U M2' U M' U2 M2' U2 M' U2, which is what I do) was the very top entry on the wiki until 20 September 2018, when @pjk of all people (the owner of this website) removed it. Considering it's probably the most common form of this PLL, I wonder why he removed it?

Anyway, it has been on the wiki and then taken off it several times in the history, it's quite silly and amusing. The 28 August 2010 version, for instance, had both the one I mention and the one you mention (M2 U M2 U M U2 M2 U2 M U2, in that exact form).

Fun with wikis.
 

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I've added it onto there now. In the future, please add algs onto the wiki as you wish - anyone can edit it and it is a community project.

Strange. It appears the more commonly done version of this alg (M2' U M2' U M' U2 M2' U2 M' U2, which is what I do) was the very top entry on the wiki until 20 September 2018, when @pjk of all people (the owner of this website) removed it. Considering it's probably the most common form of this PLL, I wonder why he removed it?

Anyway, it has been on the wiki and then taken off it several times in the history, it's quite silly and amusing. The 28 August 2010 version, for instance, had both the one I mention and the one you mention (M2 U M2 U M U2 M2 U2 M U2, in that exact form).

Fun with wikis.
This was a mistake. Like 80% of the PLLS before Sept. 2018 were not useful, so I did a massive purge. Please report any other issues - the goal is to have the best/good algs there, not just random ones that aren't ever used. (the AlgDB has all of those already).
 

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I saw someone post a video about a new U-Perm that is only good with magnetic cubes that has a D/D' in it and apparently the fastest ever. Can't find it on the wiki. Anyone?
 

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Is the wiki page kept up to date with this thread? The edit feature didn't seem to work properly so I couldn't add this sweet V perm:

R' U R' U' R D' R' D R' U D' R2 U' R2 D R2

Edit: Apparently needed to make an account on the wiki to edit it. I'll add it now
 

martinba314

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I'm probably not the first to discover this, but given that the full bar is facing you, if you do the move that swaps B with the buffer in OP corners, it solves the Ja permutation case.

The algorithm is: R D' (modified Y-perm) D R'

What do you guys think? Should I stick with this algorithm (considering I've already gotten used to it through OP), or learn the main Ja perm algorithm?
 

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That alg is 19 HTM, which is a lot considering there are much shorter algs:

With the bar on the left:
x' (R2' F R F') R U2' r' U r U2' [10 HTM]

With the bar on the back:
(R' U L') U2 (R U' R' U2) (L R U') [11 HTM]

With the bar on the right:
(L' U' L) F (L' U' L U) L F' L2 U L U [14 HTM]

I use the first one which is fingertricks friendly and you can do the R2' while rotating so the rotation doesn't cost any time :)

Edit: I put the last one there because it's easy to remember since it's the mirror of the Jb perm, but I don't actually recommend it unless you use your left hand for every pll. It's not a good idea to mirror pll algs for regrips reasons
 
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