ChickenWrap
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If I understand this correctly, it is basically doing a setup, then doing a normal M2 cycle, then finishing with an M2 in order to solve 3 edges at once?
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If I understand this correctly, it is basically doing a setup, then doing a normal M2 cycle, then finishing with an M2 in order to solve 3 edges at once?
Tao Yu
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What happens is that you cycle three pieces. You don't necessarily solve three pieces. You could be breaking into an new cycle, for example and solving only one piece.
Here's an kind of example:
Say you have to shoot to two targets A and B. Lets say A is in the middle layer. What you would do would be:
1. Do a setup move that either moves target A out of the middle layer or moves A into the UB position.
2. Shoot to A (so, you are shooting to where A is now)
3. Shoot to B
4. Undo the setup that you did at the very start.
The result is that you have shot to A and then B. (You will have solved 1, 2 or 3 pieces depending on you situation.
When you use this, make sure that the M-slice is correct. If the M-Slice is wrong, you might end up cycling the wrong pieces.
Edit:
Quick Example:
Scramble: F R F' M' F R' F' M
You have to shoot to FU and DR
1. Do the setup move U. This moves the FU spot out of the middle layer to the RU spot.
2. Shoot to RU
3. Shoot to DR
4. Undo setup move with U'.
Result: You have shot to FU and DR.
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ebuc
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for 3style/bh method, what is the best way to go about choosing a buffer? I know that many of the top 3bld cubers use different buffers, so what makes some buffers more desirable than others? (I just want to make a good choice the first time)
Tao Yu
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I can't tell you which buffer is the best, but here are some things that you should consider when choosing a buffer.
1. How will you solve parity? This is very important, because some buffers make it easy to solve parity.
2. Are the algs nice? Do a lot of the algs require rotations? (I'm not sure if anyone knows which buffer has the best algs, as no one has ever tried out more than one buffer properly. Not that I know of)
3. Are there algs lists for that buffer? (for example, Grzegorz' alg list is for UBR only) These could be very helpful to you when you are finding algorithms to use.
4. You should probably not use ridiculous stuff like DB, as you will have to perform a rotation before you memo.
I'm not sure how much of a difference it really makes. I choose DF/UBL because I was using M2/OP beforehand, and it was just easier to continue using the same buffers. I also liked the method for solving parity (I ripped off my solving methods from Noah).
ebuc
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Thanks - I'll probably continue to use DF and UBL just so that I can transition more easily (gradually incorporate 3cycles into my normal m2/OP).
I just figured this is a good thing to make sure of before diving into 3style. Perhaps there would have been issues that, in my current stage, I could not have foreseen, but I'm glad that that is not the case.
I just figured this is a good thing to make sure of before diving into 3style. Perhaps there would have been issues that, in my current stage, I could not have foreseen, but I'm glad that that is not the case.
ChickenWrap
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I have been getting close to a BLD success, however my memo times are so horrendous (and my memos are so strenuous)that I don't even enjoy BLD attempts. I have a huge amount of difficulty making letter pairs, and even when I do find a word, I get confused as to which two letters I had chosen...
For example, Ninja: Did I choose Ninja or Ninja?
Any tips on what I could do? Even a new memorization system is something I would consider
For example, Ninja: Did I choose Ninja or Ninja?
Any tips on what I could do? Even a new memorization system is something I would consider
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Goosly
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Use the same system for every word. So the first to letters of each word are the letters to execute, OR the first letters of each part of the word are the letters to execute.
For example:
SYstem, SPeedcubing, BAthtub
OR
SysTem, SpeedCubing, BathTub
Don't use both. That's confusing.
Ollie
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Yep, this ^ Sticking to consonants is useful for this, since you'll know when it comes to execution that the letter pair is likely to consist of two consonants. The ratio of consonants to vowels means that NinJa is far more likely than NInja
Saying that, however, many of my words use both of those rules. I have just practiced my lists enough times to just know that NI is the word toNIght, whereas NK is someones NecK.
A Leman
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I have been getting close to a BLD success, however my memo times are so horrendous (and my memos are so strenuous)that I don't even enjoy BLD attempts. I have a huge amount of difficulty making letter pairs, and even when I do find a word, I get confused as to which two letters I had chosen...
For example, Ninja: Did I choose Ninja or Ninja?
Any tips on what I could do? Even a new memorization system is something I would consider
I always use the first and last letter of the first syllable of a word. This allows me to use any word if I wanted to and I will always know what they will stand for. This also makes my one syllable audio loop sounds align with my images.
For example the first syllable of TiNman is TiN and the first syllable of EXeggutor is EX
NI is NIdoking
NJ is NinJa
NN is NuN
Some people may pronounce Ninja differently and say that it is Nin-ja instead of Ninj-a but I stick to my personal phonetics.
ChickenWrap
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Yep, this ^ Sticking to consonants is useful for this, since you'll know when it comes to execution that the letter pair is likely to consist of two consonants. The ratio of consonants to vowels means that NinJa is far more likely than NInja
Saying that, however, many of my words use both of those rules. I have just practiced my lists enough times to just know that NI is the word toNIght, whereas NK is someones NecK.
Would you recommend I make a list of all 560ish letter pairs? Or do you just think up words as you go?
Tao Yu
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It shouldn't be necessary at this stage. Just think up words as you go. Eventually, you'll find yourself using the same words every time, and you'll get confused less.
I sometimes use one word for several different letter pairs. I don't get confused as long as I memo really fast. But then, I DNF all the time, so you really shouldn't follow in my footsteps. The point I'd like to make though, is that sometimes just remembering that you used NinJa instead of NInja works fine.
ChickenWrap
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For the M2 edges method, I am a little confused with the middle layer "shooting" algorithms.
They are apparently M2, M U2 M U2, U2 M' U2 M', (U M')3 U M (U M')4, F E R U R' E' R U' R' F' M2 and M2 F R U R' E R U' R' E' F' .
Where does each "alg" shoot to? I use speffz letter scheme if that is helpful.
They are apparently M2, M U2 M U2, U2 M' U2 M', (U M')3 U M (U M')4, F E R U R' E' R U' R' F' M2 and M2 F R U R' E R U' R' E' F' .
Where does each "alg" shoot to? I use speffz letter scheme if that is helpful.
Applecow
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UB, DB, UF, BU, FU, BD
Goosly
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^ You don't. They should be intuitive.
But the setups is different from every solve, there's no system whatsoever? You've to imagine what the setup is supposed to be after every solve, and then do it backwards after you've procceded the algorithm?
Ollie
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Which method are you using?
I'm learning the execution here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o49SnZhr2oM
- I understand how to execute to solve all the cornors now while I am looking at the cube. But even with open eyes I think the setups are very difficult, why ?
ChickenWrap
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They shouldn't be difficult at all. "see" the piece in your head, visualize how to move it to the RDF position, and do the setup. It is always less than 2-3 moves anyway.
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