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2x2x3 + pair( can be done in many ways, i.e. 3/4 cross and pairs, 1x2x3 + 2x2x2)
Last pair with corner orientation(like ZBLS with corner)(could be WV or SV)
L5EO
L5EP + CP/PLL + DF edge(96 or fewer algs - 21 PLL = <75 algs(also some will just be setup moves to PLL))(If this subset hasn’t been named yet tell me (I want to name a subset))
 

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CLP for Roux sounds good, but if there are more algs than CMLL or COLL then it's not really suitable. This would be like doing Last Pair in Roux and then Winter Variation, something like WVLP + Roux. Less Algs than CMLL maybe in some situations and can be influenced in the solve, but not really practical if you want to be sub 10 maybe (?)
Just because something has more algs doesn't mean its bad. 2lll has less algs that 4-look, but almost everyone knows 2-look. People use EOLR even though it has more algs than EO then L/R. Also it's WVCP(Winter Variation Corners Permute) not WVLP
 

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2x2x3 + pair( can be done in many ways, i.e. 3/4 cross and pairs, 1x2x3 + 2x2x2)
Last pair with corner orientation(like ZBLS with corner)(could be WV or SV)
L5EO
L5EP + CP/PLL + DF edge(96 or fewer algs - 21 PLL = <75 algs(also some will just be setup moves to PLL))(If this subset hasn’t been named yet tell me (I want to name a subset))
Wait. L5EO? What about the DF edge?
 

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I’d just thought I should jot down this idea some where. It’s just a way to utilize luck or even influence it (In Petrus and maybe ZZ? Dunno if you could do it in ZZ). Basically the idea is that if you see a 2x2x1 block form (or start to form and influence it whilst solving), you can preserve it, leaving you with an easy COLL case and an EPLL skip.

Now that I think about it, it’s kinda like phasing.
 

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I’d just thought I should jot down this idea some where. It’s just a way to utilize luck or even influence it (In Petrus and maybe ZZ? Dunno if you could do it in ZZ). Basically the idea is that if you see a 2x2x1 block form (or start to form and influence it whilst solving), you can preserve it, leaving you with an easy COLL case and an EPLL skip.

Now that I think about it, it’s kinda like phasing.
So instead of using ZZLL for Petrus you use this?
 

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So instead of using ZZLL for Petrus you use this?
At a more advanced level, you could. This is because you could more easily influence the formation 2x2x1. But for less advanced solvers, it would just be a luck thing.

Now that I think about it, you could do a less advance method (not just pure influence). It would go like this:
1. 2x2x2
2. 2x2x3
3. EO
4. 2x2x1 like F2L, but on top
5. F2L
6. COLL
You could switch around 3 and 4.

Do you think that pure influence is the only viable option? Or could devoting a full step to the 2x2x1 be worth it, too?
 

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LCE or lines, corners, edges
So recently I was messing with corners first and came up with this
1. first you build two 1x1x3 lines on the L and R sides of the cube
2. CMLL
3. solve 1-2 edges on the top layer
4. do a z rotation then solve the edges until there is one missing on L and two missing on R
5. L7E

Big cube variant
1. solve top and bottom centers
2. partial lines solve two sets of 1 corner plus one dedge on the d layer and place one dedge in between the two corners
3. finish centers
4.solve one of the remaining cornes as well as a dedge then do 3-2-3 edge pairing
5. 3x3+parity

When solving edges in step 4 you solve them in pairs
 
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@zlimit
Sounds to me like Waterman mix with LMCF with a bit of Salvia.

@others
I am searching Information about WaterZZ but I can't find this anywhere. So if someone has some useful links i would be grateful :)
 

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