# (New) What cubes should be added to the WCA events list?

## What cubes should be added to the WCA?

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#### Fukuoka Kengo James

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I think eventually we will be one-looking
Then we will not need 1 hour for FMC.

#### Iwannaganx

##### Member
Then we will not need 1 hour for FMC.
I did say eventually. I don't think it will be in my lifetime, or anytime soon. But if people do one look, the algs might be long. But yes not one hour probs

#### GAN 356 X

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I did say eventually. I don't think it will be in my lifetime, or anytime soon. But if people do one look, the algs might be long. But yes not one hour probs
Which means FMC will have to be removed?

#### GAN 356 X

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If you look at the limits of CFOP, it's around 4.2 seconds so I don't see any sub 4 averages happening because people won't reach that level of optimisation. You need to find a method that has a limit sub 3.8 to persuade me that sub 4 is possible.
Wait, how do you work out the limits on a method?

#### Kit Clement

TIL that seeing a 3rd or 4th pair within 15 seconds in a CFOP solve is relevant for FMC.

#### Aerma

Which means FMC will have to be removed?
Being able to one-look solves doesn't equal FMC changing much. If I'm able to one-look a 35-move solve, that isn't super helpful for FMC. In addition, FMC relies a LOT on trial-and-error, something that isn't applicable in speedsolving.

#### PapaSmurf

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Wait, how do you work out the limits on a method?
You look at the movecount, give it a theoretical tps for each step and boom. It's not an exact science but it gives a rough idea.

#### CarterK

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I bought an x-man Wingy and haven't touched it in like weeks...
Cool...?

If you look at the limits of CFOP, it's around 4.2 seconds so I don't see any sub 4 averages happening because people won't reach that level of optimisation. You need to find a method that has a limit sub 3.8 to persuade me that sub 4 is possible.
Ok couple things here. Limit doesn't mean averages can't be below that, that's just a limit for global. Even now sub 3 singles are possible. I don't see how sub 4 averages just aren't gonna happen.

Then we will not need 1 hour for FMC.
I too look for a fingertricky solution using a speedsolving method for FMC...

#### Tabe

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Ok couple things here. Limit doesn't mean averages can't be below that, that's just a limit for global. Even now sub 3 singles are possible. I don't see how sub 4 averages just aren't gonna happen.
Yeah, Sameer has a 2.78 or something and several other people have sub-4s at home. Eventually somebody will get the right combination of scrambled and get a sub-4.

#### Kit Clement

I too look for a fingertricky solution using a speedsolving method for FMC...
Meanwhile, I look for unfingertricky starts using blockbuilding for 3x3x3 speedsolves.

#### GAN 356 X

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eah, Sameer has a 2.78 or something and several other people have sub-4s at home.
Predictions: who do you think will get the next world record single?

#### AbsoRuud

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Tanzer Balimtas is fairly sure only 4 people have sub 3s at home. Max, Feliks, Patrick and Namh.

That said, out of those four, I think Patrick and Namh are most likely to get the new WR. But it could be anybody with a lucky scramble and a lucky solve.

#### Iwannaganx

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Tanzer Balimtas is fairly sure only 4 people have sub 3s at home. Max, Feliks, Patrick and Namh.

That said, out of those four, I think Patrick and Namh are most likely to get the new WR. But it could be anybody with a lucky scramble and a lucky solve.
It will be max park, Feliks uses CFP now and max will be like stuff you imma use CF.

#### GAN 356 X

##### Member
At this comp in QLD Australia, they're doing team blind and mirror cube as trial events

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#### Underwatercuber

##### Guest
@Kit Clement is there currently any discussion amongst WCA members like yourself in removing Clock as an official event? Assuming you can disclose that information to the public..

#### Zeke Mackay

##### Member
New event idea:

Pyraminx but you put a screw in it and you have to keep the screw inside the pyra and solve it

#### GAN 356 X

##### Member
New event idea:

Pyraminx but you put a screw in it and you have to keep the screw inside the pyra and solve it
LOL