(New) What cubes should be added to the WCA events list?

[Zeke Mackay]

New event idea:

Pyraminx but you put a screw in it and you have to keep the screw inside the pyra and solve it

 

[GAN 356 X]

New event idea:

Pyraminx but you put a screw in it and you have to keep the screw inside the pyra and solve it

LOL

 

[ProStar]

I want a BLD event where a mirror cube and 3x3 are scrambled identically, memo is done on the mirror cube, and solve is done on 3x3.

 

[PapaSmurf]

I don't. That's a bad idea for an event.

 

[GAN 356 X]

I don't. That's a bad idea for an event.

I tend agree, but it would be interesting

 

[One Wheel]

I want a BLD event where a mirror cube and 3x3 are scrambled identically, memo is done on the mirror cube, and solve is done on 3x3.

A mirror cube would be confusing, but I think two different cubes, one with standard colors and the other with both colors and a different dot/shape pattern on each side would be very reasonable.

 

[fortissim2]

Two things:
1. Good luck on finding a notation system for the curvy copter.
2. How would you decide partners for Team Blind?

Other than that, I think that kibiminx has great potential for a new WCA event.

 

[Mike Hughey]

1. Good luck on finding a notation system for the curvy copter.

Not only has this been done, but a random-state jumbling scrambler has in fact already been written for it using that notation.

SALOW Notation for Curvy Copter.

If we agree to disagree, would you be fine with making two scramblers with the two different notations and let others decide? Yeah I'll post scrambles tomorrow in both formats and see what y'all like.

www.speedsolving.com

It might not be particularly good to read, and might prove to be impractical for competitions, but at least it exists. And in my opinion it is at least much better than the original megaminx notation, so hey, we're off to a good start.

 

[icarneiro]

What about an event that you need to scramble your cube to be exatcly another that are scrambled?

 

[Aerma]

What about an event that you need to scramble your cube to be exatcly another that are scrambled?

Thing is, that's just solving it but into a different state. Once people get used to it, it would just be 3x3 with slightly less inspection time.

 

[GenTheThief]

What about an event that you need to scramble your cube to be exatcly another that are scrambled?

This is called match the scramble and it is dominated by reverse blind solving. I think they had it at the Red Bull cubing championships and it's also an event in the weekly competition.

 

[Zeke Mackay]

A few weeks bump oops, but I think I have good criteria for good new events.
1) Good length, between 5 and 60 seconds.
2) Distinct from other events, rather than being a shape mod, different sizes, or different ways of solving an existing event.

Team blind is a different way of solving 3x3
2x2 oh is a different way of solving 2x2
2 3x3s or double oh are different ways of 3x3
kilominx is a different sized megaminx
ghost cube and mirror cube are shape mods
master kilominx is a different sized megaminx
Mosaic cube is too long, not having a sub 1 ao5

This leaves Curvy Copter, Redi Cube, which may be slightly too short and luck dependent, and Gear cube, which I would change to a gear ball or larger gear cube.

 

[Mike Hughey]

1) Good length, between 5 and 60 seconds.

Different people certainly have different opinions as to what a "good length" is. Mine would certainly be longer, especially on the short end. I suppose 5 seconds is barely okay for a world record single.

Mosaic cube seems like a pretty ideal-length event, in my personal opinion. But I realize other people do prefer shorter events.

 

[GAN 356 X]

A few weeks bump oops, but I think I have good criteria for good new events.
1) Good length, between 5 and 60 seconds.
2) Distinct from other events, rather than being a shape mod, different sizes, or different ways of solving an existing event.

Team blind is a different way of solving 3x3
2x2 oh is a different way of solving 2x2
2 3x3s or double oh are different ways of 3x3
kilominx is a different sized megaminx
ghost cube and mirror cube are shape mods
master kilominx is a different sized megaminx
Mosaic cube is too long, not having a sub 1 ao5

This leaves Curvy Copter, Redi Cube, which may be slightly too short and luck dependent, and Gear cube, which I would change to a gear ball or larger gear cube.

I still personally believe that kilominx and master pyraminx are the coolest ideas. They are both pretty quick events, and have decent hardware already. A lot of new innovation would come out if they were excepted as events, and they do seem to be the two cubes with the most following. 3x3 has larger/smaller versions of it self, so why can't megaminx and pyraminx? Furtheromre, both events are short enough to be quick, and long enough to be non-trivial. Perfect imo.

I also think curvy copter is a cool idea, because of its uniqueness.
Now is also the time to add and event seeing as feet has been removed. Or should the events stay at 17? I dunno honestly

Edit: as Mike Hughey said, the preferred length fo events varies between people. I myself tend to pa=ratcie events between the 10 secs to 3 minute range, however, I still do 6x6 and 7x7 quite a bit

 

[GenTheThief]

I think that the new event added to the WCA should be Feet.

Feet should be added back into the WCA after it's short and unwarranted hiatus during 2020.

 

[qwr]

Not every WCA event needs to be at every competition, so they need not be so conservative with events.

 

[H perm]

Personally, while I like most of these proposals, I think the most realistic cubes to be admitted into the WCA would be larger size variants of existing side puzzles, like the master pyraminx (If you make an updated poll, the master pyraminx should be an option in my opinion) and the master kilominx. Both have good hardware and are manufactured by reputable brands like Qiyi and Shengshou.

 

[GAN 356 X]

Added master pyraminx