(New) What cubes should be added to the WCA events list?

[GAN 356 X]

Since I forgot to add so many things, I decided to make a new one.

 

[Kit Clement]

You're still missing the "none of these" option. Only 2-3 of these events are even reasonable ideas.

 

[Aerma]

... and still no axis cube...

Axis cube is just a 3x3 shape mod, it would add nothing. And shapeshifting puzzles would be difficult to add anyway because of the scramble image.

 

[Wish Lin]

Curvy copter and copter is fantastic but jumbling could be an issue.

 

[White KB]

You're still missing the "none of these" option. Only 2-3 of these events are even reasonable ideas.

No offense to @GAN 356 X , but @Kit Clement is kind of right.

Maybe they could put Magic and Master Magic back in, but they actually scramble it instead of it being the same thing over and over. That would make the number of events an even 20. For people who care about Kinch (myself included), it would mean a WR would mean an even 5, not 5.3333...
However, the old solves from those events would probably have to be archived and not used for statistical purposes. If the old ones were placed alongside the new, it would mix things up* even more.

* = #InsertABadJoke/DadJokeIntoACommentJustBecauseYouCan

 

[OreKehStrah]

Curvy copter and copter is fantastic but jumbling could be an issue.

When I speed solve it I just use scrambles for the Dino cube so it only scrambles edges without jumbling as it would be difficult to organize in a comp.

 

[weatherman223]

Let’s focus on whether we should remove certain events before we focus on adding another event that will just turn into a “cram 3 heats in before lunch” event.

 

[Sion]

I would like curvy copter. We currently don't have any edge turning events or many jumbling events (only squan.) This would definitely open up a whole new world of methods and another set of world class cubers, and give attention to such a unique puzzle.

Kilo and master kilo might be good alongside pyramorphix and master pyraminx.

 

[Kit Clement]

I would like curvy copter. We currently don't have any edge turning events or many jumbling events (only squan.) This would definitely open up a whole new world of methods and another set of world class cubers, and give attention to such a unique puzzle.

If someone comes up with a random state scrambler for this puzzle that has not terrible notation/scrambles, I might be on board with this. That being said, I'm fairly skeptical about this.

 

[MCuber]

Kilominx and RediCube are favorable in my opinion, the rest are just meh

 

[CuberStache]

If someone comes up with a random state scrambler for this puzzle that has not terrible notation/scrambles, I might be on board with this. That being said, I'm fairly skeptical about this.

Well hey, kilominx has a random state scrambler with not terrible notation.

 

[White KB]

Let’s focus on whether we should remove certain events before we focus on adding another event that will just turn into a “cram 3 heats in before lunch” event.

Amen to that. Some events would, in my opinion, honestly be better off removed.
(The ones I'm thinking of are 3WF, 3FMC, 7x7, or maybe Clock)

 

[Xtreme Cuber]

Amen to that. Some events would, in my opinion, honestly be better off removed.
(The ones I'm thinking of are 3WF, 3FMC, 7x7, or maybe Clock)

They're already removing 3x3 With Feet. I agree that clock should go as well, due to the fact that it isn't even a twisty puzzle. However, I strongly disagree that either FMC and 7x7 should be removed. FMC is such an interesting concept and is so different than any other WCA event, but in a good way. I also see no valid reason to remove 7x7.

 

[CuberStache]

Yes, FMC is a fantastic event and while 7x7 is a bit long, there's really no good reason to remove it. Feet and clock are the only two events that have a chance of being/should be removed imo.

 

[Xtreme Cuber]

"When I think about whether an event should be removed I usually think about should we have it in the first place and if we didn’t have it already I feel like I would laugh at the idea of adding 3x3 with feet." –J Perm

This is how I feel about clock, as well. There's no good reason to have it as an official event in the first place. In addition, major cube companies don't even take it that seriously, so there's no innovation in the foreseeable future with the puzzle. When was the last time that a mass-produced good-quality clock was manufactured?

 

[Aerma]

@Kit Clement is there currently any discussion amongst WCA members like yourself in removing Clock as an official event? Assuming you can disclose that information to the public..

 

[White KB]

They're already removing 3x3 With Feet. I agree that clock should go as well, due to the fact that it isn't even a twisty puzzle. However, I strongly disagree that either FMC and 7x7 should be removed. FMC is such an interesting concept and is so different than any other WCA event, but in a good way. I also see no valid reason to remove 7x7.

That's a valid point, but I had no idea they were actually removing feet solving. Now I kind if miss it... -ish.

 

[Kit Clement]

@Kit Clement is there currently any discussion amongst WCA members like yourself in removing Clock as an official event? Assuming you can disclose that information to the public..

Any serious discussion about this would exist on the regulations GitHub, which is public.

 

[Wish Lin]

Curvy copter and copter is fantastic but jumbling could be an issue.

Maybe there is a faster method when you jumble the cube even if the scramble isn’t jumbled.

 

[NeptuneCuber]

I feel like team blind wouldn't work because of how difficult it would be to post the results. Also how do you decide partners. Master Kilominx is basically a big 4x4. Definitely Redi cube because it is like Skewb. The turning is completely different