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SALOW Notation for Curvy Copter.

Would you support Curvy Copter as an event?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 78.7%
  • No

    Votes: 10 21.3%

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Here are 12 random-state scrambles with my preferred notation. I will admit that having 3s on every move for ~2/3 of the scramble is somewhat clunky.
0 UR3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UB3 LB3 UL3 LB3 RF3 UF3 UR3 UB3 UL3 UB3 RF3 UF3 UL3 RF3 RB3 UB3 LF3 UL3 UF3 LF3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UB3 RB3 UR3 LF3 UL3 UF3 RF3 DB3 DR3 DF3 DR3 DF3 LF- LF+ DF+ DL3 LF+ DL3 UL- UF3 UB- UF+ UB LB3 UB2 RF DF3 RF2 UF2 DL2 LF UF UB2' UR3 UB2 LF' RF3 RB3 UB
1 UL3 UB3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 UF3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UF3 UL3 LB3 UB3 UL3 RF3 UF3 UR3 UB3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UL3 RB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 RB3 UB3 LF3 UF3 UR3 UB3 UR3 UL3 UF3 RF3 RB3 UB3 LF3 DB3 DL3 LB3 DL3 DR3 RB3 DB3 DR3 RB3 DF3 LB- LB+ UB+ RB3 DB3 LB3 DF+ RF3 UL+ LB3 LF- UF3 RF3 UF+ RF+ UF3 UL- UB LB3 UB2 RF DF3 RF2 RB2 DL2 DB RB RF2' UR3 RF2 DB2'
2 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UL3 UB3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UB3 UL3 LB3 RF3 UR3 UB3 RF3 UR3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 RF3 RB3 UB3 UR3 LF3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UR3 UF3 LB3 DB3 LB3 DL3 DB3 DF3 LF3 DL3 DF3 LF3 UF- UF+ UB- UB+ UB+ RB3 DF+ DL3 UL+ UF3 UR3 LB3 UF+ UR3 LF3 DF3 UL LF3 UL2 RB DR3 RB2 LB2 DF2 DL LB RB3 DF3 RF2 DL
3 UF3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 LB3 UB3 UR3 UF3 RF3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UL3 LB3 UL3 UB3 UL3 RF3 UR3 RF3 RB3 UB3 UL3 UF3 RB3 LF3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 UF3 LF3 DL3 DB3 LB3 DF3 LF3 UF3 UL3 UB3 UL+ LB3 DL3 DB+ LB3 RB3 UF+ UR3 UB LB3 UB' DL2 LF DB3 RB UB DL DR
4 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UL3 LB3 UL3 RF3 UR3 UB3 UL3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 RF3 UF3 RB3 UB3 RB3 LF3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 RB3 LF3 UF3 LF3 DB3 LB3 UL3 DR3 RB3 UB3 DB3 DF3 LB- LB+ DF+ UL+ UB3 UR3 LF+ UL+ LB3 UR+ RF3 DR3 UF+ RB- LB2 UB3 UR LB2' DF LF3 DF3
5 UF3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UL3 LB3 UB3 UL3 UF3 LB3 UB3 UL3 RF3 UF3 UR3 UF3 RB3 UB3 LF3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 RB3 UR3 UB3 UR3 RF3 RB3 LF3 UF3 DL3 LB3 UB3 LF3 DL3 DR3 DF3 LF- LF+ UB+ LB3 DB3 RB3 UL+ UF3 DR+ DF3 DB+ LB3 RB3 UF+ RF3 UB UR3 UB3 UR LB2 DL3 LB DF'
6 UL3 UF3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UF3 LB3 UB3 RF3 UF3 RF3 UF3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 UB3 UL3 RB3 UB3 LF3 UF3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 LF3 UF3 UL3 UB3 RB3 LF3 DL3 LB3 DR3 RF3 UF3 RB3 UB3 UL3 LF3 DL3 DF3 LB- LB+ DF+ RF3 DR+ RB3 RF3 UL+ LB3 DB+ LB3 UB3 UR2 RF3 UR2' DL2 DB3 RB DL DF DR2 RB' LB3 LF3 DF
7 UB3 UL3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UR3 LB3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 UF3 UB3 RF3 UR3 RF3 RB3 UR3 UF3 UB3 RB3 UB3 UL3 LF3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 LB3 DB3 LB3 DB3 DF3 DL3 LF3 DF3 DL3 LF- LF+ DF+ DL3 LF+ DL3 UL+ UF3 LB+ UB3 DB+ DR- UB2 LF2 UL RB DF'
8 UR3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UR3 UL3 LB3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UF3 LB3 UB3 RF3 UF3 UR3 UL3 RF3 RB3 LF3 UF3 RF3 UR3 UB3 UL3 RB3 LF3 UF3 UL3 RF3 DL3 LB3 DB3 DL3 LB3 DB3 DF3 LF3 DL3 DR3 UR- UR+ UB+ UL3 RB3 DB3 UL+ UF3 LB3 DL3 DL+ DF3 DB- LB3 RB+ UL2 UF3 UL3 LB RF3 UF3 RF DF2 RF3 DF2' DB3 LB3 UL DB2
9 UR3 UF3 UR3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UL3 LB3 UL3 UB3 UR3 LB3 UL3 RF3 UF3 UR3 UB3 RF3 UF3 UR3 UL3 LB3 LF3 UF3 UR3 RB3 UB3 UR3 UL3 UF3 RB3 UB3 UL3 LF3 UF3 DL3 DB3 DR3 RB3 UB3 LB3 DB3 LF- LF+ UB+ LB3 RB3 UL+ LF3 DF+ UF+ LF3 RF3 DR+ UF2 LF3 UF3 LF2 DB2 DR3 DB3 DR2
10 UL3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UR3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UB3 LB3 UB3 UL3 LB3 UB3 UL3 RF3 UR3 UF3 RF3 UR3 UF3 UR3 UB3 RF3 LF3 UL3 LB3 UB3 RB3 UB3 UL3 UF3 UR3 UB3 LF3 DF3 RF3 DR3 RF3 DB3 DL3 DF+ RF3 DL3 UB+ LB3 DF+ UL+ UF3 UR3 DR+ RF3 UF+ LF3 RF+ UF3 UL+ UR UF3 UR' LB2 UB DL3
11 UB3 UR3 UL3 UF3 UL3 UB3 UR3 UL3 UF3 UB3 UR3 UB3 UR3 LB3 UL3 UF3 UB3 LB3 RF3 UR3 UF3 RF3 UR3 UF3 UL3 RF3 UR3 UB3 LF3 UF3 RF3 UR3 RB3 UR3 UB3 UL3 LF3 UF3 UL3 LB3 DL3 LB3 DL3 DR3 DB3 RB3 DF3 UF- UF+ UB- UB+ DF+ UL+ LB3 UR+ RF- DF+ LF3 UL- UB UR3 LB3 UB RF2 DR RF DR2 DL3 DF
Additional fun facts:
I still do not own a Curvy Copter (thanks pCubes).
This coincidence amuses me:1566580207987.png
 
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Here are 12 random-state scrambles using Sion's preferred notation:
0 UF UB UR UL UB UL UF UR UF UB UR UF UB UR LB RF UR UF UB UR UL LB RF UF RF UF UL RB UB LF UL UB UR UF UL UF RB UB UR UF UL LF DL LB DF LF UF UR RB UF- DL- LF UF+ DL+ UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- DL UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UB UR UF UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UF+ UL UF LB UL LB+2 RF+2 UF- UB+ LB UB LB+ UB+
1 UR UF UR UB UR UB UL UF UL UB UR UL UF LB UL UB LB UL UB RF UR UB UL UF UR UB UR UL RB UR UF UL LB LF UL LB UB UR UF RB UB LB UL DL LB DR RF UF LF DF DR DF UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- RB DB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- RF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- DF RF UB+ DL+ LB UB- DL- UL LF LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- RB UL+2 UF UL-2 DB+2 DR RF+ DB-2 DL-2 DF+2 DL+2 UL+2 LB UL+ DF+ DB UB UL UB+ UR+2 LB+2 UB+2 UR-2 LB+
2 UF UR UL UF UB UR UB UL UB UR UF UR UB UR UF LB UB UR UL UF LB RF UR UF UB UR UL LB UB RF RB UR UF LF UF UR UB UR UF UL UF LF UL LB DR DB DR DF RF UR LF DF UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL RB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- RF DL RB+ DF+ DR RB- DF- DF LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- LB UR+2 RF UR-2 RB-2 UB UL DF+ DR+2 RB UB UL+2 RB+ DF+2 UF+ UL UF UL+ UF+2 LF UF LF+2 DF+ LF DF LF+ UL+2
3 UF UL UF UL UB UL UF UR UF UL UB UL LB UL UF RF UR UF RF UR UF RF RB UR RB UR UB UR UL LF UF LF UF UR UL RB LF UL DB DL LB UL DB DL DB DR RB UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- RF DL UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UF UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- LF RF UR+2 UB UR-2 DF+2 DL LB+ DF-2 UF-2 UL+2 UF+2 UL+ DF+2 RF UR DF+ DR DF DR+ RF+2 DB+2 DR+2 RF+ DB-2
4 UF UL UF UL UB UL UF UB UR UF UB UR UB UR LB UB UL RF UR UF UB UL UB RF UF UR UF UB RF UF RB UB UL RB LF UL UF UB LF UF UL UB RB LF DL DB LB UL DL DR RB UB DR UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR- LB- UB UR+ LB+ UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR UF UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UB- LF- UL UB+ LF+ UF UR- LB- UB UR+ LB+ LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- DL DR UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR UB+ LB UB+2 RB+2 DL- DB+ DL+ UL+2 UF UL DB+
5 UL UB UR UL UB UL UF UL UB UR UL UF LB UB UR UF UR LB UB LB RF UR UB UL UF UR UB LB RB UB UR LF UF UR UL UB UR UF LF UL DB LB DF LF UL UB DL DB RB UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL UF RB UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LF LB RB+ DF+ DR RB- DF- RF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- DR UF+ LB+ RF UF-2 DB LB- DR+2 RB+ DR+ DL+
6 UF UR UF UR UF UR UB UR UL UB UR UB UL LB UB UR RF UF RF UF UR UL UB UL LB RF UR UF RB UR UF UL UB UR RB UB LF UL UF UB UR RF DL LF DB UL- DB- LB UL+ DB+ UB+ DL+ LB UB- DL- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR UF RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- DR DB UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UF LB DL UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LB RB+ DF+ DR RB- DF- DB UB+ RF+ UR UB- RF- UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ RF DR UB- DR- RB UB+ DR+ UF+2 LF UF-2 RF-2 UR DL+ LB UB+2 DF+2 RF DL- UL+ UB UL+2 DL-
7 UF UR UF UR UL UB UR UB UL UF UR UF UL UF UB LB UB RF UF UR UB UL UB LB UB LB RF RB UR LF UF UR UL UB UL UF UR UB RF UR RB DB LB DB LB DF DR UB- LF- UL UB+ LF+ UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- LB DB RB UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UL UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- RF UL+ LF UL+2 LB+2 UB UR DF- DL+ DF+ DL DF RF+2 UF+ RF UF RF+ UF+2 UR UF UR+ DF+2 DL LB-2 DF-
8 UR UL UF UR UB UL UB UR UB UR UL LB UL LB RF UF UR UF RF UR UF RF UR UB UL LB RB UR RF RB LF UL UF UB RF UR UB UL RF DB DL DR RB DR DB LB UB DL UF- DL- LF UF+ DL+ UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- LB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UB UR UF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR UB LF+2 RB+2 UR RB-2 DF LF-2 UF+ DR+ DB+2 LB DB-
9 UF UR UL UF UR UL UF UB UR UB UL UF UR UL UB LB UB UL UF UR RF UF UR UL UB UL RF UF UL LB UB RF RB UR UF UB UL RB UB LF UF UR UL UB UL UF DL DR DF DL DB RB UR UB UL- DB- LB UL+ DB+ UB+ DL+ LB UB- DL- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR UF LB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- DL DR UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UF LB UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- DR UB+ RF+ UR UB- RF- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- LF LF+ UF UR- LF+2 DF- RF DL+ LB+ DF RF+
10 UR UB UL UF UR UF UL UB UR UL UF UB UR UL LB UL UB UR UL UB RF UF UR UL UB UL LB RB UR UB UR LF UF LF UF UL UB UR UF UL DB RB UR DL LB UL DR DF UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- RB DB LB UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR LF DF UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR+ RB UR+2 DL+ DF RF+2 DL+2 DB+2 DR+ DB LB UL- DB+
11 UF UB UL UF UR UB UR UB UR UF UR UF UB UR RF UF UR UL UB LB UL UB RF UF UR UF UL UB UL LB LF UF UR UB UR RB LF UL UF UB LB RF RB LF UL DB DL DF DR DB DL DF DR DB DL UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR- LB- UB UR+ LB+ UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- RB DB UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- DF RF UF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LB UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- LF RF LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- UB+2 RB UB-2 DL+2 LF UF+ DL-2 LB+ UL+2 LB UL+2 DR-2 RF+2 DB+2
This results in a wider range of scramble lengths (and longer scrambles on average, but only because we have stopped using shorthand). For example, the last 2 scrambles here are 83 and 127 moves.
 

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Here are 12 random-state scrambles using Sion's preferred notation:
0 UF UB UR UL UB UL UF UR UF UB UR UF UB UR LB RF UR UF UB UR UL LB RF UF RF UF UL RB UB LF UL UB UR UF UL UF RB UB UR UF UL LF DL LB DF LF UF UR RB UF- DL- LF UF+ DL+ UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- DL UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UB UR UF UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UF+ UL UF LB UL LB+2 RF+2 UF- UB+ LB UB LB+ UB+
1 UR UF UR UB UR UB UL UF UL UB UR UL UF LB UL UB LB UL UB RF UR UB UL UF UR UB UR UL RB UR UF UL LB LF UL LB UB UR UF RB UB LB UL DL LB DR RF UF LF DF DR DF UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- RB DB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- RF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- DF RF UB+ DL+ LB UB- DL- UL LF LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- RB UL+2 UF UL-2 DB+2 DR RF+ DB-2 DL-2 DF+2 DL+2 UL+2 LB UL+ DF+ DB UB UL UB+ UR+2 LB+2 UB+2 UR-2 LB+
2 UF UR UL UF UB UR UB UL UB UR UF UR UB UR UF LB UB UR UL UF LB RF UR UF UB UR UL LB UB RF RB UR UF LF UF UR UB UR UF UL UF LF UL LB DR DB DR DF RF UR LF DF UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL RB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- RF DL RB+ DF+ DR RB- DF- DF LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- LB UR+2 RF UR-2 RB-2 UB UL DF+ DR+2 RB UB UL+2 RB+ DF+2 UF+ UL UF UL+ UF+2 LF UF LF+2 DF+ LF DF LF+ UL+2
3 UF UL UF UL UB UL UF UR UF UL UB UL LB UL UF RF UR UF RF UR UF RF RB UR RB UR UB UR UL LF UF LF UF UR UL RB LF UL DB DL LB UL DB DL DB DR RB UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- RF DL UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UF UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- LF RF UR+2 UB UR-2 DF+2 DL LB+ DF-2 UF-2 UL+2 UF+2 UL+ DF+2 RF UR DF+ DR DF DR+ RF+2 DB+2 DR+2 RF+ DB-2
4 UF UL UF UL UB UL UF UB UR UF UB UR UB UR LB UB UL RF UR UF UB UL UB RF UF UR UF UB RF UF RB UB UL RB LF UL UF UB LF UF UL UB RB LF DL DB LB UL DL DR RB UB DR UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR- LB- UB UR+ LB+ UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR UF UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UB- LF- UL UB+ LF+ UF UR- LB- UB UR+ LB+ LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- DL DR UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR UB+ LB UB+2 RB+2 DL- DB+ DL+ UL+2 UF UL DB+
5 UL UB UR UL UB UL UF UL UB UR UL UF LB UB UR UF UR LB UB LB RF UR UB UL UF UR UB LB RB UB UR LF UF UR UL UB UR UF LF UL DB LB DF LF UL UB DL DB RB UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL UF RB UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LF LB RB+ DF+ DR RB- DF- RF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- DR UF+ LB+ RF UF-2 DB LB- DR+2 RB+ DR+ DL+
6 UF UR UF UR UF UR UB UR UL UB UR UB UL LB UB UR RF UF RF UF UR UL UB UL LB RF UR UF RB UR UF UL UB UR RB UB LF UL UF UB UR RF DL LF DB UL- DB- LB UL+ DB+ UB+ DL+ LB UB- DL- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR UF RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- DR DB UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UF LB DL UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LB RB+ DF+ DR RB- DF- DB UB+ RF+ UR UB- RF- UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ RF DR UB- DR- RB UB+ DR+ UF+2 LF UF-2 RF-2 UR DL+ LB UB+2 DF+2 RF DL- UL+ UB UL+2 DL-
7 UF UR UF UR UL UB UR UB UL UF UR UF UL UF UB LB UB RF UF UR UB UL UB LB UB LB RF RB UR LF UF UR UL UB UL UF UR UB RF UR RB DB LB DB LB DF DR UB- LF- UL UB+ LF+ UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- LB DB RB UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UL UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- RF UL+ LF UL+2 LB+2 UB UR DF- DL+ DF+ DL DF RF+2 UF+ RF UF RF+ UF+2 UR UF UR+ DF+2 DL LB-2 DF-
8 UR UL UF UR UB UL UB UR UB UR UL LB UL LB RF UF UR UF RF UR UF RF UR UB UL LB RB UR RF RB LF UL UF UB RF UR UB UL RF DB DL DR RB DR DB LB UB DL UF- DL- LF UF+ DL+ UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- LB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UB UR UF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR UB LF+2 RB+2 UR RB-2 DF LF-2 UF+ DR+ DB+2 LB DB-
9 UF UR UL UF UR UL UF UB UR UB UL UF UR UL UB LB UB UL UF UR RF UF UR UL UB UL RF UF UL LB UB RF RB UR UF UB UL RB UB LF UF UR UL UB UL UF DL DR DF DL DB RB UR UB UL- DB- LB UL+ DB+ UB+ DL+ LB UB- DL- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UR UF LB RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- DL DR UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- UF LB UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- DR UB+ RF+ UR UB- RF- UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- LF LF+ UF UR- LF+2 DF- RF DL+ LB+ DF RF+
10 UR UB UL UF UR UF UL UB UR UL UF UB UR UL LB UL UB UR UL UB RF UF UR UL UB UL LB RB UR UB UR LF UF LF UF UL UB UR UF UL DB RB UR DL LB UL DR DF UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- RB DB LB UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR LF DF UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR+ RB UR+2 DL+ DF RF+2 DL+2 DB+2 DR+ DB LB UL- DB+
11 UF UB UL UF UR UB UR UB UR UF UR UF UB UR RF UF UR UL UB LB UL UB RF UF UR UF UL UB UL LB LF UF UR UB UR RB LF UL UF UB LB RF RB LF UL DB DL DF DR DB DL DF DR DB DL UL- RF- UF UL+ RF+ UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- UR- LB- UB UR+ LB+ UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- UL+ RB+ UB UL- RB- RB DB UL+ DF+ LF UL- DF- DF RF UF UF+ LB+ UL UF- LB- LB UR+ LF+ UF UR- LF- LF RF LB+ DR+ DB LB- DR- RF+ DL+ DF RF- DL- UB+2 RB UB-2 DL+2 LF UF+ DL-2 LB+ UL+2 LB UL+2 DR-2 RF+2 DB+2
This results in a wider range of scramble lengths (and longer scrambles on average, but only because we have stopped using shorthand). For example, the last 2 scrambles here are 83 and 127 moves.

Would it be possible to put a cap to scramble length?
 
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Would it be possible to put a cap to scramble length?
Of course, but that wouldn't make it a random-state scrambler anymore. If you want shorter random-state scrambles, you need a more sophisticated solver. To do that would require more compute power than most people currently have (we could do slightly better with better coding, but I believe the difference is not that large).
 

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While I understand the benefit to using the shorthand notation, I don't really like the idea of using it, because while it is beneficial for people who practice curvy copter all the time, it would be completely surprising and confusing for someone who is scrambling it for the first time. I think we should go with a format that is easily understood by everyone, and I think the shorthand takes that away. I realize it is simple, but it is nonetheless cryptic, and I think it would be mentally "rejected" by a number of people for a while until they got used to it, so I don't think it's practical for an actual competition scramble notation. Besides, the longhand notation would become very obvious to people who do get good at scrambling it, to the point where they'd read the entire group of moves as a single move anyway when scrambling and would start doing it all in one motion, so they would speed up even with the longhand notation.

I think it's wonderful that we now have a random state scrambler for this puzzle! Nice job, whatshisbucket! We can still look at the possibility of a more sophisticated solver someday, but just having something that works is quite an accomplishment. This makes me hope that curvy copter might be added to our online weekly competition next year!
 

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Of course, but that wouldn't make it a random-state scrambler anymore. If you want shorter random-state scrambles, you need a more sophisticated solver. To do that would require more compute power than most people currently have (we could do slightly better with better coding, but I believe the difference is not that large).
Would you be free to post a form of link or download for your Random state scramblers so we could possibly start doing unofficial averages and possibly make it easier to make methods?
 

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Just found a cool applet if anyone doesn't know: gelatinbrain

I found it in a old curvy copter alg discussion thread; it can simulate curvy copter (without jumbling) and provides alg input and stuff. It can be very helpful in finding non- jumbling curvy copter algs IMO.

Download: http://users.skynet.be/moz071262/Applets/Magic Polyhedra/

Curvy copter's file is at File -> New -> cubes -> edge turn -> 3.3.0
 
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Everything needed for you to run the scrambler is here. Just download everything in the folder and run the python code while the reference files are in the same folder as the .py file. Currently the scrambles are outputted just with python print statements; if you would prefer them outputted in a text file I can make that change (or you can if you know how to write python). Currently 12 scrambles are outputted at a time; this can be changed similarly. The scrambler does take a while to run because it reads all the files, but it takes about the same time to make 1 scramble as it does to make 100 since only the file reading is time consuming. Happy solving!
 

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Everything needed for you to run the scrambler is here. Just download everything in the folder and run the python code while the reference files are in the same folder as the .py file. Currently the scrambles are outputted just with python print statements; if you would prefer them outputted in a text file I can make that change (or you can if you know how to write python). Currently 12 scrambles are outputted at a time; this can be changed similarly. The scrambler does take a while to run because it reads all the files, but it takes about the same time to make 1 scramble as it does to make 100 since only the file reading is time consuming. Happy solving!
This is great! I have a small question related to your Python syntax: I notice that you have some lines longer than 80 characters, the recommended max line length. Whenever I have a long >80 characters, I use a \ to have it go to the next line so that each line stays within 80. Does this actually change anything, or am I just wasting effort doing this while programming?
 
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This is great! I have a small question related to your Python syntax: I notice that you have some lines longer than 80 characters, the recommended max line length. Whenever I have a long >80 characters, I use a \ to have it go to the next line so that each line stays within 80. Does this actually change anything, or am I just wasting effort doing this while programming?
Keeping your lines under 80 characters might make people less annoyed by your code and more likely to read it. So would putting spaces between things (like c = a + b). However, these don't affect how the code runs, and thus my code still functions despite being oftentimes unreadable.
 
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I have made updates to make the scrambler faster and the interface more convenient. The .py files with "new" at the end represent these updated versions. Most importantly, the full scrambler now runs much faster (6 seconds down from 20 on my machine) and the interface will make it such that more scrambles can be generated without having to read all the helper files again. To use it, just run the code until it prints "Ready!", after which you input how many scrambles you would like printed. It will print them, and then ask for input again. To stop the code, simply input "0". The scrambles can be generated at rates of roughly 200/sec for the full scrambler and 50000/sec for the simpler scrambler.

Facts about scramble length:
I did simple testing by generating a bunch of scrambles and looking at the min and max lengths. The range over 50000 scrambles for the full scrambler was 59-159, although before that when I only asked it to check 1000 scrambles it managed to create a 51 move scramble (!), which I think is one of the most extraordinary anomalies I have ever seen (this is less than half the average length). I believe only 2 out of the 50k scrambles were under 60 moves, and only 16 of the last 40k (this was all I checked) were under 65.
The range over 13 million scrambles of the shorter version was 27-64. I believe the only thing notable about this is that both the min and max are perfect cubes. Also, the mean is much closer to the max, but this results from the average movecount for each of the last 3 phases being closer to the max than the min.
 

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Keeping your lines under 80 characters might make people less annoyed by your code and more likely to read it. So would putting spaces between things (like c = a + b). However, these don't affect how the code runs, and thus my code still functions despite being oftentimes unreadable.
At least you admit you write unreadable code! Better than a lot of programmers I've seen.
 

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