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For big cube wings, there are the targets on the l-slice that you set-up to BUr. Why don't you set them up to something easier to execute? For example, couldn't you set-up FDl to FRd (with F'), execute [(U R U') r2 (U R' U')], and then undo with F?
edit: never mind, I just tried it and i'm super dumb
edit: never mind, I just tried it and i'm super dumb
Cale S
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Doing that F' move would also move the buffer, so it wouldn't work to do that. You could do an l2 U setup to RU which is an easy target, but you would have to keep that setup move for both of the targets of that letter pair, because undoing the l2 U would ruin the r slice interchange.
h2f
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I didnt determined that doing moves like d, u etc. is importatant for me for doing centers - both x and + centers. I do them with 3-style which Ive learnt from Ollies tutorial. For wings and midges I use r2/m2 which I execute as Rw2/R2 and Rw3/Rw2 (for M slice). For x and + centers i just use layers d, u or E and its uncomfortable.
geocine
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Question for 3x3 BLD:
I deleted my question, since it was irrelevant
I deleted my question, since it was irrelevant
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Is there a good source which thoroughly goes through floating buffers? I've searched but haven't really found one that satisfied me.
This is my understanding for centers: You start with a buffer on U, and memorize normally until you get to a center that belongs on U. If you have an even number of targets, then you can just switch to the next buffer and start over again, doing this until the fourth buffer is solved.
If you had an odd number of targets at the end of a buffer, what are the most common ways to deal with this? One way I saw is to add a 2-cycle at the end, but what if you can't find a 2-cycle of centers?
If you solve the fourth buffer but the centers aren't done, would you just continue breaking into cycles on the fourth buffer, or switch back to your first buffer?
For wings, how would all of these differ? It seems like you can't just add a 2-cycle of wings very easily.
This is my understanding for centers: You start with a buffer on U, and memorize normally until you get to a center that belongs on U. If you have an even number of targets, then you can just switch to the next buffer and start over again, doing this until the fourth buffer is solved.
If you had an odd number of targets at the end of a buffer, what are the most common ways to deal with this? One way I saw is to add a 2-cycle at the end, but what if you can't find a 2-cycle of centers?
If you solve the fourth buffer but the centers aren't done, would you just continue breaking into cycles on the fourth buffer, or switch back to your first buffer?
For wings, how would all of these differ? It seems like you can't just add a 2-cycle of wings very easily.
tseitsei
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Can't really help with that.
This is true.
You can just add any target from the U-layer (assuming your buffer is at U-layer) to the end of centers to make it a 3-cycle. So you are actually doing a 3-cycle but it looks like 2-cycle since 2 of the pieces are identical...
Both will work just fine. You can pick which you want to use.
First of all I STRONGLY suggest NOT using floating buffer for anything else than centers.
Secondly wing 2-cycles are quite common. All normal OLL-parity algs are wing 2-cycles (not all are center safe though so be careful...) and also some of the K4 LL cases are useful...
newtonbase
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There are a lot of wasted moves in M2 eg last move for FL is U then first move for BL is U'. Would you guys automatically cancel that move if doing FL then BL? Is that something you would practice? Or maybe you would have moved on to a more advanced method by the time you are that good?
Berd
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Advanced M2 does something similar to what you're saying. Zane has a video on it.
newtonbase
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That video has a lot more in it than been hoping for. Thanks again Berd.
2180161
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I cant seem to find a good video for learning how to BLD solve. could anyone point me in the right direction?
h2f
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I'm looking for a system to flip corners and edges. I would like to set-up to a specific spot, do an algorithm that flips the piece and the buffer, and then undo the set-up. If multiple spots are required for good set-ups that's okay, too. I'd just like to develop a single alg for every piece (cw and ccw for corners, obviously). My buffer for corners is UBL and my buffer for edges is DF. They don't need to be center-safe (they can rotate the centers, since I execute centers first on big cubes anyway), but they should be big cube safe in general (ie the edge flips don't mess with wings on a 5x5, etc). For now I'm not really interested in flipping multiple non-buffer pieces, since those situations don't come up a lot and aren't really universal. Thanks for your help!
Berd
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For corners you can use the sune from right, sune from left and it's inverse. Check out the COLLs. For edges I have a video but be warned, it's not center preserving!
Blind Tip! - Edge Flipping: https://youtu.be/y8te-BJ0eMo
That edge stuff is very handy. I don't see what you mean by sune, doesn't that rotate more than just 2 corners? And by not center preserving, do you mean they rotate centers or do you mean they switch pieces between centers?
Berd
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They destroy the centers. Tho on big cubes, it doesn't take so long to shoot to both targets.
For the sune algs:
R U R' U R U2 R' L' U' L U' L' U2 L
Inverse it for the other way.
oh i see, i thought you meant like sune from the right as one option, sune from the left as another option (not the two combined). Would you happen to know any that rotated two diagonal corners on the U face? That way I could setup to UFR and not just UFL and UBR.
Berd
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Just do like a F' to set it up and do the sune algs haha.
oh i was being stupid and thinking about in terms of where yellow was, you're completely right. Thanks.
ChaozCubing
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Please answer ASAP: okay I'm learning how to solve 3x3 BLD using the old pochman method and Zane C's tutorial. My question is, how do I keep track of which pieces I've solved? I know how to keep track of the number of ones I've solved using t = u + c, but how do I know WHICH are solved? This is to make sure when I'm breaking into a new cycle, I shoot the buffer to an unsolved piece. Thanks!
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