The New Method / Substep / Concept Idea Thread

[PapaSmurf]

That's called portico and is already a thing, just with DF instead. DB is worse due to the blindspot.

 

[N's-cvt]

I would be interested in the algs, however, why not let DF be any of the U-layer edges instead?

Cool I will get them in pdf form tomorrow for you. I suppose you could put a U edge in DF instead like with portico but I like using DB as it is less distracting looking at the U/F faces, and I don't need to think about how I can more efficently solve F2L.

 

[N's-cvt]

I went all out with the organization of the algs in this pdf!
disclaimer the cubes could be a bit small to see.

 

[Spacey10]

I went all out with the organization of the algs in this pdf!
disclaimer the cubes could be a bit small to see.

Isn't this just HK with corners done?

 

[N's-cvt]

Spacey, I don't know much about HK but yeah sure this is something like HK with all corners solved allowing for a fun MU finish. I think the real HK is using the DF edge and has something like 100 algs but even though many people have said they were developing and optimisng the alg sets I have'nt really seen anything from that.

 

[Cubingcubecuber]

Spacey, I don't know much about HK but yeah sure this is something like HK with all corners solved allowing for a fun MU finish. I think the real HK is using the DF edge and has something like 100 algs but even though many people have said they were developing and optimisng the alg sets I have'nt really seen anything from that.

My website, hkmethod.com

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

This is probably really stupid, but wanted to write it anyway

Variant of Hawaiian Kociemba

1) LB

2) EODB

3) RB

4) HKOLL+ HKPLL


Alternatively, you could do L4C and L5EP

 

[AlphaCuber is awesome]

This is probably really stupid, but wanted to write it anyway

Variant of Hawaiian Kociemba

1) LB

2) EODB

3) RB

4) HKOLL+ HKPLL


Alternatively, you could do L4C and L5EP

This isn’t hk its leor

 

[ProStar]

This is probably really stupid, but wanted to write it anyway

Variant of Hawaiian Kociemba

1) LB

2) EODB

3) RB

4) HKOLL+ HKPLL


Alternatively, you could do L4C and L5EP

This is basically LEOR

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

This is basically LEOR

I know it's basically LEOR-A+LEOR-B+HK.
The L4C and L5EP could be better than HKOLL and HKPLL

 

[Username: Username:]

Lol it's just a different way of making HKF2L + EO, full EOArrow and COLL + L5EP is better.
Also, doing L4C for CxLL when you could do literally any CxLL subset that preserves the DF edges, COLL + L5EP or HKCLL and L5EP for examples.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

Lol it's just a different way of making HKF2L + EO, full EOArrow and COLL + L5EP is better.
Also, doing L4C for CxLL when you could do literally any CxLL subset that preserves the DF edges, COLL + L5EP or HKCLL and L5EP for examples.

L4C to preserve EO

 

[Username: Username:]

L4C to preserve EO

So does COLL which is objectively better than L4C.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

So does COLL which is objectively better than L4C.

I just remember that L4C preserve permutation and orientation, so yeah i'm stupid.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

BTW why does no-one use WVCP and ELL since that's a 2LLSLL, like VH method but with less algs?

 

[Username: Username:]

BTW why does no-one use WVCP and ELL since that's a 2LLSLL, like VH method but with less algs?

Da heck it has wayyy more algs than VH lol also, recog ing the pair and making it in a position to insert is one more look which makes it a 3LLSLL method.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

Da heck it has wayyy more algs than VH lol also, recog ing the pair is one more look which makes it a 3LLSLL method.

VH Method is VHLS and ZBLL

 

[Username: Username:]

VH Method is VHLS and ZBLL

Lol VH is Cross, F2L-1 then making the pair, then doing VHLS which is two look instead of ZBLS which does what VHLS + pair does in one look which is the ZB method.

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

VH Method is VHLS and ZBLL

WVCP has 378 algs (including mirrors), and ELL has 29, which is 407 algs, and VH method uses 525 algs

 

[TheSlykrCubr]

Yea, so VH is basically a transition to ZB Method