What cubes should be removed from the WCA?

[NigelTheCuber]

Been proposing almost the same thing since 2017(I think).
Would add too much logistics, backlash and drama, database clutter.

The whole Forum by now knows that I think 2x2 is an absolute joke for multiple reasons.
Am deeply offended some advocate for Squab. Squab best, objectively.

why is 2x2 a joke lmao

 

[Thom S.]

why is 2x2 a joke lmao

*Points at puzzle*
*Points at WR*
*Points at lenght of algorithms*
*Points at amount of algorithms needing to be learnt to have a chance of competing at top level*
*Points at the fact that nobody actually has fun with 2x2, it's about learning multiple algs per case, so you can chose one that saves a single move*
*Points at the fact that you need to one-look the solve in inspection, meaning there is no brain power involved, only thing holding you back from getting faster times is how fast you can move your fingers*
*Points at the WR, UWR and PBs of the Top 20 all being 4 movers, the minimal lenght that is allowed*
*Points at 2x2 Mains not being taken seriously by the community*
*Points at WR standing with no improvement*
*Points at 2-0.75 second solves never being interesting for a spectator to look at*
*Points at puzzle again*


Also, why are you aking me, I've told you most of these twice already because you act each time like you've never heard it?

 

[Imsoosm]

*Points at puzzle*

It's small, so what?

*Points at WR*

It's fast, so what?

*Points at lenght of algorithms*

It's short, so what?

*Points at amount of algorithms needing to be learnt to have a chance of competing at top level*

There are a lot of people who are consistently sub-2 while only knowing CLL and EG

*Points at the fact that nobody actually has fun with 2x2, it's about learning multiple algs per case, so you can chose one that saves a single move*

It's more about which alg flows better according to the moves you made for the layer/face

*Points at the fact that you need to one-look the solve in inspection, meaning there is no brain power involved, only thing holding you back from getting faster times is how fast you can move your fingers*

Zayn Khanani: "Oh wow I don't even need a brain to think up optimal/near-optimal 2x2 solutions"

*Points at the WR, UWR and PBs of the Top 20 all being 4 movers, the minimal lenght that is allowed*

Dang, people got lucky.

*Points at 2x2 Mains not being taken seriously by the community*

MGC Elite and Valk are taken pretty seriously

*Points at WR standing with no improvement*

Zayn's getting closer to it with his new 0.54 PB

*Points at 2-0.75 second solves never being interesting for a spectator to look at*

Spectators: "Yeah a sub-1?? I see those everyday, they're super easy to get"

*Points at puzzle again*

Again, it's small, so what?

 

[White KB]

I would want to remove 7x7, if you like odd layer cube with no parity just go do 5x5

Also clock, it isn't a twisty puzzle and is so different from the others

*shocked expression*
But clock-- and 7x7-- I practice those...

I mean in some ways you have a point, but clock is unique and solving the QiYi Magnetic is really fun. Then for 7x7, I really like the event because it's long but also fast. Right now, I'm trying to push the sub-6:00 barrier and that has been a really fun challenge for me, especially since before this I averaged 7-9 minutes and was really out of practice. I also like that it's one of the only "long" events that doesn't require one to wear a blindfold or hold a pencil, other than Megaminx, 5x5, and 6x6.

 

[White KB]

*Points at puzzle*
*Points at WR*
*Points at lenght of algorithms*
*Points at amount of algorithms needing to be learnt to have a chance of competing at top level*
*Points at the fact that nobody actually has fun with 2x2, it's about learning multiple algs per case, so you can chose one that saves a single move*
*Points at the fact that you need to one-look the solve in inspection, meaning there is no brain power involved, only thing holding you back from getting faster times is how fast you can move your fingers*
*Points at the WR, UWR and PBs of the Top 20 all being 4 movers, the minimal lenght that is allowed*
*Points at 2x2 Mains not being taken seriously by the community*
*Points at WR standing with no improvement*
*Points at 2-0.75 second solves never being interesting for a spectator to look at*
*Points at puzzle again*


Also, why are you aking me, I've told you most of these twice already because you act each time like you've never heard it?

Well said, er, um, pointed. I don't necessarily agree on this for the level I'm at (trying to get sub-5), but I can definitely see your "point" for top-level solving. But I will counter a bit: at least with the massive number of algs one has to learn, they're shorter on average than 3x3 algs...

 

[DynaXT]

Also clock, it isn't a twisty puzzle and is so different from the others

But then I won't be good at any event

 

[NigelTheCuber]

*Points at amount of algorithms needing to be learnt to have a chance of competing at top level*

you can get sub-3 with only ortega if you practice.

 

[Renslay]

4-year old bump, just for taking a glimpse at history. It seems that Clock was the top candidate to remove after all back in 2019/2020!
I just find it interesting.

 

[CubeLite]

4-year old bump, just for taking a glimpse at history. It seems that Clock was the top candidate to remove after all back in 2019/2020!
I just find it interesting.

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Yea since clock was still undeveloped around that time, but once qiyi released the new clock, 7 simul became popular, and new rule with pins it really started to become famous and appreciate more, but ig it wasnt enough

 

[ProStar]

My bad guys, I voted 333WF and clock. I would’ve taken it more seriously if I knew the WCA relied so heavily on my feedback.

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

My bad guys, I voted 333WF and clock. I would’ve taken it more seriously if I knew the WCA relied so heavily on my feedback.

The event back then was nowhere as popular as it is in the past few years, and there were basically no “advance” methods of solving clock at that time, and cubers who do clock well are very likely maining other events, and did not really take the event seriously anywhere as the clock community that has evolved in recent years

 

[White KB]

I'm a clock main... or was anyway...

 

[Fukuoka Kengo James]

How about 2x2 the troll event

 

[Michael Wimberly]

How about 2x2 the troll event

It’s really only a troll at the top level, there are still people who take longer to solve it but still take long enough that it looks impressive without looking inhumanly fast, which I’d say is around 2.5+ seconds.