What cubes should be removed from the WCA?

[IsThatA4x4]

I'm not particularly against any events as of current, and I think that any event that isn't popular but is not removed can still be kept as it really is just up to the organisers whether they include it or not
And even though this argument is 2 years old, I think clock does qualify as a "twisty puzzle", at least in the literal sense of the phrase.
You "twist" the handles or whatever they're called, and the clock hands "twist" accordingly
It is a bit of a stretch but not as untwisty (that's a new one) as say, 15 puzzle.

 

[White KB]

I'm not particularly against any events as of current, and I think that any event that isn't popular but is not removed can still be kept as it really is just up to the organisers whether they include it or not
And even though this argument is 2 years old, I think clock does qualify as a "twisty puzzle", at least in the literal sense of the phrase.
You "twist" the handles or whatever they're called, and the clock hands "twist" accordingly
It is a bit of a stretch but not as untwisty (that's a new one) as say, 15 puzzle.

I agree. I'm planning on doing every 2019 event (which, thanks to Extra Events, is possible) so for me I've done these so far:
3x3, 2x2, 4x4, 5x5, 3BLD (single), FMC (single) (SR2 holder), OH, Clock (Dual SR holder), Megaminx, Pyraminx (SR2 holder), Skewb, Square-1, and (under EE) 3x3 With Feet (single).

And these are the events I haven't done but can do:

6x6, 7x7, 3BLD mean, FMC mean, 4BLD (as of 2 days ago), 5BLD (as of yesterday).

(Finally able to do bigBLD )

I can also do MBLD, but not under the legal time limit, so I'll need to work on that. Other than that limitation, I think being able to do every WCA event is a great achievement that people can look at. Before Feet was removed, there were only about 300 people who had done every event. Now there are more, but still: I think we should keep every event, since every event provides its own challenges. Doing every event (with mean/average) is an achievement I would like to have, and if people remove events that I like, that takes the fun away for not only me, but everyone who likes that event. The clock solvers Facebook group alone has 817 members.

(And also bigBLD is apparently very fun once you learn how to do things.)

 

[Ayce]

I'm not particularly against any events as of current, and I think that any event that isn't popular but is not removed can still be kept as it really is just up to the organisers whether they include it or not
And even though this argument is 2 years old, I think clock does qualify as a "twisty puzzle", at least in the literal sense of the phrase.
You "twist" the handles or whatever they're called, and the clock hands "twist" accordingly
It is a bit of a stretch but not as untwisty (that's a new one) as say, 15 puzzle.

What about having an event pool, where unpopular events can cycle in and out of being permitted in competitions annually, this would allow other event concepts like kilominx, relays, 15 puzzle, and other ideas to make their way into the WCA. Although I see an issue with this as people who main these unpopular event would obviously dislike this.

 

[Owen Morrison]

I say FMC, 2x2, or megaminx should go. FMC is just, werid. 2x2 is a waste of time and so is megaminx

mega best

 

[Owen Morrison]

Wow I voted for clock to be removed. I can't believe I used to be so stupid.

 

[Ayce]

Wow I voted for clock to be removed. I can't believe I used to be so stupid.

I accept your apology.

 

[Thom S.]

What about having an event pool, where unpopular events can cycle in and out of being permitted in competitions annually, this would allow other event concepts like kilominx, relays, 15 puzzle, and other ideas to make their way into the WCA. Although I see an issue with this as people who main these unpopular event would obviously dislike this.

Been proposing almost the same thing since 2017(I think).
Would add too much logistics, backlash and drama, database clutter.

The whole Forum by now knows that I think 2x2 is an absolute joke for multiple reasons.
Am deeply offended some advocate for Squab. Squab best, objectively.

 

[Ayce]

Am deeply offended some advocate for Squab. Squab best, objectively.

cries in sledgehammer/hedgeslammer
Its a weird event but I don’t think it should be removed.

 

[abunickabhi]

What about having an event pool, where unpopular events can cycle in and out of being permitted in competitions annually, this would allow other event concepts like kilominx, relays, 15 puzzle, and other ideas to make their way into the WCA. Although I see an issue with this as people who main these unpopular event would obviously dislike this.

Cool idea. This has already been discussed on the WCA forums. It is called the tier system, where the unpopular events in the WCA are kept on and off through the years.

 

[qwr]

Everytime this topic comes up I make people mad by saying 6x6 and 7x7 should be removed, so I'll do it again: they're a rehash of 5x5, just longer and maybe more parity. You get nothing out of it except more face solving and edge pairing (which makes the event take way too long anyway) when new exciting events like kilominx or FTO could take its place.

 

[gsingh]

Everytime this topic comes up I make people mad by saying 6x6 and 7x7 should be removed, so I'll do it again: they're a rehash of 5x5, just longer and maybe more parity. You get nothing out of it except more face solving and edge pairing (which makes the event take way too long anyway) when new exciting events like kilominx or FTO could take its place.

me: add 8x8 and 9x9!
@qwr : remove 6x6 and 7x7!

 

[Thom S.]

cries in sledgehammer/hedgeslammer
Its a weird event but I don’t think it should be removed.

I meant Squan. The meme Word for Skewb is Skweb not Squab

 

[qwr]

me: add 8x8 and 9x9!
@qwr : remove 6x6 and 7x7!

you must be joking right?

 

[IsThatA4x4]

me: add 8x8 and 9x9!
@qwr : remove 6x6 and 7x7!

Why remove 6x6??
We gotta give people a chance to get triple parity, it's a real character and resilience building experience!

 

[Thom S.]

How do you even get Triple Parity when it's so easily avoided.
Also, 6 and 7 are huge fun, gonna write more tomorrow.

 

[gsingh]

How do you even get Triple Parity when it's so easily avoided.
Also, 6 and 7 are huge fun, gonna write more tomorrow.

still double parity tho
they are still fun

 

[Auric Cui]

I say FMC, 2x2, or megaminx should go. FMC is just, werid. 2x2 is a waste of time and so is megaminx (Not to offend those who like these events)

OK I take it back I like megaminx now

 

[Timona]

OK I take it back I like megaminx now

You have seen the light.

 

[LBr]

I think that an event cycle would be interesting, but wouldn’t go with the events you said: Kilominx is just a boring version of megaminx, and without all the cool optimisations that 2x2 has, so it shouldn’t be added. Relays don’t bring anything new to the scene: it’s just a case of showing how good you are at nxns. I personally don’t agree with the idea of an event cycle for the following reason: people wouldn’t want to practice an event only being held for half a year, as it would discourage competitors from competing, which sort of defeats the point of a wca event, and the wca should be committed to an event rather than flogging it off for half the year.

 

[NigelTheCuber]

I would want to remove 7x7, if you like odd layer cube with no parity just go do 5x5

Also clock, it isn't a twisty puzzle and is so different from the others