[Help Thread] Puzzle Setup / Tension Discussion
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Help with wuque 4x4 m?
I have it at a controllable speed, and it still pops. The pops are quite ridiculous as an edge (the internal one and outer two pieces) and a internal center piece pops at the same time. The springs are also compressed. I have the screws set at the edge of the center stalks.
For lubing I use gan standard lube in place of Traxxas 50k or wt 5 and Mary to speed it up a little. Gan lube is quite thick (I think thicker than wt5) so it might be making the tensions seem tighter than usual.
P.s: sorry if the information isn't organized
I have it at a controllable speed, and it still pops. The pops are quite ridiculous as an edge (the internal one and outer two pieces) and a internal center piece pops at the same time. The springs are also compressed. I have the screws set at the edge of the center stalks.
For lubing I use gan standard lube in place of Traxxas 50k or wt 5 and Mary to speed it up a little. Gan lube is quite thick (I think thicker than wt5) so it might be making the tensions seem tighter than usual.
P.s: sorry if the information isn't organized
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You might need to tighten it more. I can't remember how tight mine is. I had to tighten it up because I was getting pops as well. On one, I was doing an R and a center piece popped, taking with it an internal piece.
Ive got a problem regarding the tensions on my fairly new stock Wuque. I kinda messed up the tensions and i cant find a way to make them even again. Disassembling is what I did before to try to make them as even as possible but that didnt help that much.
How can I tell what face has to be adjusted?
EDIT: I just removed the center pieces and flattened the screws with the surface of the internal center piece. At the same time I applied the spring mod where you compress the springs down to 1,3 cm.
**** gets real now. This thing is amazing now. Now i know why everyone and their mother loves the Wuque. But its a bit unstable now, I have to tighten it just a tiny bit and it should be perfect!
How can I tell what face has to be adjusted?
EDIT: I just removed the center pieces and flattened the screws with the surface of the internal center piece. At the same time I applied the spring mod where you compress the springs down to 1,3 cm.
**** gets real now. This thing is amazing now. Now i know why everyone and their mother loves the Wuque. But its a bit unstable now, I have to tighten it just a tiny bit and it should be perfect!
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4x4 Tensioning for dummies?
Hello,
you may call me stupid but for me, this seems impossible. With the 3x3 cubes I kinda get it right. I'm not a pro but I'm happy with how my cubes turn out usually. But with the 4x4 no matter what I do, something is off.
I know the usual advice - tension every spring the same and then turn them all the same amout - but when I assemble my cubes, I have to loosen them up to put the parts in, then I tighten them. So that is pretty much impossible for me.
So what happens for me is this. For example I hold the cube, white side towards me and blue upwards. I try to do a corner cut, I adjust it a bit, then I turn the cube around, now white is in front and red is upwards. I try a corner cut, I adjust the tension... Rinse and repeat. But then I turn the cube around, blue towards me, and I check corner cutting on white side - it's too loose or too tight. Seems like whatever I adjust, every other side gets messed up.
Am I that stupid? Am I doing something wrong? In this example, white in front, blue on top - I try to corner cut. It's too tight. I loosen the screw on TOP (blue side), is that the correct way?
Also. Sometimes I do the corner cut test and it's perfect - obviously, no adjustment needed. When it's not even working, obviously, loosen it up. But sometimes it seems like when I corner cut, the pieces in front of me seems to spread. I've heard this means I should tighten it up, is that true?
Someone please make an easy way to do it. My 4x4s are driving me crazy. Btw, I use Wuque (self magnetized) and Aosu GTS2 M (factory magnetized).
Thank you in advance, save my sanity.
Hello,
you may call me stupid but for me, this seems impossible. With the 3x3 cubes I kinda get it right. I'm not a pro but I'm happy with how my cubes turn out usually. But with the 4x4 no matter what I do, something is off.
I know the usual advice - tension every spring the same and then turn them all the same amout - but when I assemble my cubes, I have to loosen them up to put the parts in, then I tighten them. So that is pretty much impossible for me.
So what happens for me is this. For example I hold the cube, white side towards me and blue upwards. I try to do a corner cut, I adjust it a bit, then I turn the cube around, now white is in front and red is upwards. I try a corner cut, I adjust the tension... Rinse and repeat. But then I turn the cube around, blue towards me, and I check corner cutting on white side - it's too loose or too tight. Seems like whatever I adjust, every other side gets messed up.
Am I that stupid? Am I doing something wrong? In this example, white in front, blue on top - I try to corner cut. It's too tight. I loosen the screw on TOP (blue side), is that the correct way?
Also. Sometimes I do the corner cut test and it's perfect - obviously, no adjustment needed. When it's not even working, obviously, loosen it up. But sometimes it seems like when I corner cut, the pieces in front of me seems to spread. I've heard this means I should tighten it up, is that true?
Someone please make an easy way to do it. My 4x4s are driving me crazy. Btw, I use Wuque (self magnetized) and Aosu GTS2 M (factory magnetized).
Thank you in advance, save my sanity.
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While assembling you make sure the tensions are completely even and since you have even tensions, instead of checking every side individually, you check once, adjust all the tensions by the same amount and test again.
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You say that you adjust one side, rotate the cube and than adjust another one.
I say that you should adjust every side only then try out the results
I say that you should adjust every side only then try out the results
I see. But is there a point to doing that if the tensions aren't equal in the first place?
If I REALLY have no other choice, I will try the whole "set them equal and start from there" thing, but I find it almost impossible to assemble the cube this way.
If I REALLY have no other choice, I will try the whole "set them equal and start from there" thing, but I find it almost impossible to assemble the cube this way.
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You set the tensions really loose and use a box. That should help
The outer pieces aren't the problem, but what about the wings? Those will just fall apart if the cube is too loose (at least on the top layer)
My only idea to make this somewhat bearable is to start with an assembled cube, tension it so that every screw is equal with the part surrounding it, and then adjust every side the same amount of rotations until the tensions is good. Any opinions on that?
My only idea to make this somewhat bearable is to start with an assembled cube, tension it so that every screw is equal with the part surrounding it, and then adjust every side the same amount of rotations until the tensions is good. Any opinions on that?
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Hi! I need help with my Cyclone boys 4x4, the middle layers are very stiff where the first and last layers are nice and smooth. The middles are also very bumpy and rough with turning. When i tentioned it the outer layers were too loose but the middle layers were still a bit stiff. I need help fixing this. Also i dont have lube. PLease help!
ARobey
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Buy lube, i would get traxxas 50k. I think it only costs around $9 on amazon.
LightFlame_
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or you could buy it from thecubicle.us. or really anywhere. what store do you prefer
I have a gan air on yellow ges nuts and i fixed the tensions so that all are the same but when i turn the blue side seems to be alot slower than all the other sides. When i loosened it the cube loosened but the turning was still slower than all the other tighter sides and i dont know what is going on can someone help thanks
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Is it slow when solved or even when scrambled. If its the latter, it might be because that core was lubed with more of a thinker lube than the rest. Probably not the case. But it might be the case.
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I got a Wuque Mini, and as soon as I could I spring compressed it, added silk and DNM, and it was great. However, I've noticed that the outer layers were too slow for my liking (even with the spring compression) and they eat up dnm like no ones business, so I decided to disassemble the puzzle, wipe out the stock lube, compress the springs a tad bit more, assemble it, and re-lube it with silk.
However, I cannot for the life of me get even tensions properly. I do a 360 degree screw turn on each side, and try to pry apart the layers afterward to make sure it is the same. But I do it on four sides and the last 2 become very tight. Long story short, I cant tell which sides are right and which sides are too loose because the cube is trying to pull pranks on me or something and its driving me nuts.
Is there anything I did that drove my cube to insanity? For reference, The springs went from 13.5-14mm to 12.5-13mm to 12-12.5mm. I need help because I love 4x4 and I love this cube but Im genuinely scared that it might not be the compression and that I messed up the screws or something
EDIT - I probably overcompressed the springs. When I checked them yesterday they were all 11.5-12mm, so I extended them all to exactly 13mm and now outers are too slow but the tensions arent wonky anymore. Today or tomorrow I will put them at 12.5 and i think thats the sweet spot for the mini wuque.
However, I cannot for the life of me get even tensions properly. I do a 360 degree screw turn on each side, and try to pry apart the layers afterward to make sure it is the same. But I do it on four sides and the last 2 become very tight. Long story short, I cant tell which sides are right and which sides are too loose because the cube is trying to pull pranks on me or something and its driving me nuts.
Is there anything I did that drove my cube to insanity? For reference, The springs went from 13.5-14mm to 12.5-13mm to 12-12.5mm. I need help because I love 4x4 and I love this cube but Im genuinely scared that it might not be the compression and that I messed up the screws or something
EDIT - I probably overcompressed the springs. When I checked them yesterday they were all 11.5-12mm, so I extended them all to exactly 13mm and now outers are too slow but the tensions arent wonky anymore. Today or tomorrow I will put them at 12.5 and i think thats the sweet spot for the mini wuque.
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I got the AoChuang GTS recently and tried to tension it without success. The center cap won't come off no matter what I try to remove or how I try to remove it. All help will be appreciated.
