One-Answer 3x3x3 Question Thread

[FastCubeMaster]

Hi guys, still on the cusp of sub-20 here, nearly there.

anyway, I only know one algorithm per pll and I'm just looking at learning a few more so that I can solve some plls "from the back" without the need for a U2 beforehand.

Can anyone please list which plls it is definitely worth doing this for?

I'm starting with the U perms.

I'd just like to warn you that for some PLLs, this is not worth it and the one good angle will work best e.g. T perm, Y perm (Excluding OH, big cubes... etc). But for many, particularly the U perm, it's a good idea.
I have a video on all the good EPLL algs from almost all angles if you wanted to learn U perm ones there:

If you wanted any specific PLLs I can tell you the general most popular algs + angles (10 sec solver)

 

[Tom Joad]

Thanks FCM, I'll take a look at that.

If you can recommend any algorithms for any plls which stand out as very slow (relative to the others - I'm a slow turner) that would be great...

 

[xyzzy]

any plls which stand out as very slow (relative to the others - I'm a slow turner)

Jeez, I'm actually slower than you on most of that list; I'm faster only on H, Ra and V, so maybe those are what you need to work on. Check algdb for algs, as always.

 

[PHrez]

Thanks! I'll this more often!

https://rubiks-cube-solver.com/solu...22222313333333444444444555555555666666666&x=1

is there a way to solve this faster? 17 moves sounds like it is a scrambled cube!

 

[shadowslice e]

https://rubiks-cube-solver.com/solu...22222313333333444444444555555555666666666&x=1

is there a way to solve this faster? 17 moves sounds like it is a scrambled cube!

If you mean that you want something that solve cubes faster have a look at kociemba's cube explorer

 

[Tom Joad]

Jeez, I'm actually slower than you on most of that list; I'm faster only on H, Ra and V, so maybe those are what you need to work on. Check algdb for algs, as always.

Cheers xyzzy.

Which algorithm do you use for Ra?

I switched from lefty version of Rb to the one with the three U2 double flicks in it.

Not sure whether to persevere (my U2 is so slow) or revert to type.

 

[xyzzy]

Cheers xyzzy.

Which algorithm do you use for Ra?

I switched from lefty version of Rb to the one with the three U2 double flicks in it.

Not sure whether to persevere (my U2 is so slow) or revert to type.

Still using R U2 R' U2 R B' R' U' R U R B R2 (front-back mirror of the standard Rb alg), although I learnt R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R' a while back and it's somewhat faster for me. I really should switch at some point, although it's a bit hard for me because I've been using the RBU alg for years and I keep doing the AUF for that alg instead of the faster RFU alg.

 

[obelisk477]

Still using R U2 R' U2 R B' R' U' R U R B R2 (front-back mirror of the standard Rb alg), although I learnt R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R' a while back and it's somewhat faster for me. I really should switch at some point, although it's a bit hard for me because I've been using the RBU alg for years and I keep doing the AUF for that alg instead of the faster RFU alg.

R U2' R' U' R' F' R U2 R U2 R' F R U' R' is the inverse, but works from your current angle.

 

[WaffleCuber]

Optimal splits for sub 20?

 

[FastCubeMaster]

Thanks FCM, I'll take a look at that.

If you can recommend any algorithms for any plls which stand out as very slow (relative to the others - I'm a slow turner) that would be great...

Sure, sorry for the delay, I wasn't notified when you replied.

Most of them seem in good order except the Ra and Ab. Now of course finger tricking comes into play here but these are really good algs.

I suspect for Ab you're trying to mirror the Aa, so you are using maybe a slower hand to do the turning. Anyway, try:
Ab: x R2' D2 R U R' D2 R U' R x'
And for Ra:
y R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R'
y R U' R' U' R U R D R' U' R D' R' U2 R'
Those are the 2 most popular/best
And if you want to mirror the original alg:
L U2 L' U2 L F' L' U' L U L F L2

Keep in mind that it may not always be the alg that's slowing you down but how you finger trick it. There places on YouTube that have tutorials on PLL finger tricking.

 

[Tom Joad]

Sure, sorry for the delay, I wasn't notified when you replied.

Most of them seem in good order except the Ra and Ab. Now of course finger tricking comes into play here but these are really good algs.

I suspect for Ab you're trying to mirror the Aa, so you are using maybe a slower hand to do the turning. Anyway, try:
Ab: x R2' D2 R U R' D2 R U' R x'
And for Ra:
y R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R'
y R U' R' U' R U R D R' U' R D' R' U2 R'
Those are the 2 most popular/best
And if you want to mirror the original alg:
L U2 L' U2 L F' L' U' L U L F L2

Keep in mind that it may not always be the alg that's slowing you down but how you finger trick it. There places on YouTube that have tutorials on PLL finger tricking.

Thanks again, I'll give them a try, starting with that Ab one.

 

[Tom Joad]

Works like a dream!

I think I'll be able to get that close to one second. Still need to practice my D2 flick though.

 

[bobthegiraffemonkey]

Is there a good trainer for LL that lets you filter by OLL case? I think I remember one existing.

Edit: never mind, found this: https://www.speedsolving.com/forum/...er-scramble-for-any-subset-of-the-cube.61882/

 

[Yurii]

The only reason to buy "beginner" speedcubes is if you don't want to spend the money it costs to get a higher end cube. There is no reason why someone starting cubing should start with a cube that has lower performance. You'll probably upgrade to a better cube later so why not now.

Thanks

 

[Jlvs2run]

I've seen corners notated in different ways, and haven't found a definitive source.
Is there a standard order for corner notation, for example XYZ thus LUF, or is there no standard?

 

[AlphaSheep]

I've seen corners notated in different ways, and haven't found a definitive source.
Is there a standard order for corner notation, for example XYZ thus LUF, or is there no standard?

The notation doesn't just specify the corner. The first letter also specifies the orientation of that corner. So LUF refers not only the the corner that belongs in the left upper front position, but specifically to the sticker on that corner that belongs on the left face. UFL is the sticker on that same corner that belongs on the top face.

With the other two letters, the convention is to list them in clockwise order, but since it is unambiguous and is perfectly clear that UFR and URF refer to the same thing it doesn't matter much.

When talking about the corners in groups, I tend to make an exception to this. For example, when talking about the Roux first block, I would refer to the LDF and LDB corners because being on the left and bottom faces are the defining characteristics of that step and it makes it clearer which corners I'm talking about.

 

[Tom Joad]

Jeez, I'm actually slower than you on most of that list; I'm faster only on H, Ra and V, so maybe those are what you need to work on. Check algdb for algs, as always.

Sure, sorry for the delay, I wasn't notified when you replied.

Most of them seem in good order except the Ra and Ab. Now of course finger tricking comes into play here but these are really good algs.

I suspect for Ab you're trying to mirror the Aa, so you are using maybe a slower hand to do the turning. Anyway, try:
Ab: x R2' D2 R U R' D2 R U' R x'
And for Ra:
y R U R' F' R U2 R' U2 R' F R U R U2 R'
y R U' R' U' R U R D R' U' R D' R' U2 R'
Those are the 2 most popular/best
And if you want to mirror the original alg:
L U2 L' U2 L F' L' U' L U L F L2

Keep in mind that it may not always be the alg that's slowing you down but how you finger trick it. There places on YouTube that have tutorials on PLL finger tricking.

Thanks for the tips everyone, I've drilled pll for a few weeks, here is where I am at now.

Any anomalies still stand out?
Any tips on how to get F or V under two seconds?

Anyway, I think it will be a while before I try to improve those... time to sort out my olls now.

Thanks again

 

[ypermcuber]

Does anybody have a good system to recognize TTLLs in ZZ-CT?

 

[Hazel]

Where can I find the best algorithms for full edge control during LS?

 

[JustAnotherGenericCuber]

Where can I find the best algorithms for full edge control during LS?

EOLS?