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and theres always just standard oll and pll
(ive never really looked at mgls so i really dont know anything about it, except that it orients all the ll corners and one in the bottom layer)

btw slncuber: CaptainCrash44 (ErikJ) has a good video on mgls if ur interested

I am currently finnishing learning Cll on 2x2 . My question is how much time will it take me to get to sub-4 ? sub-3.5? sub-3? after learning Cll. I am using Ortega just now and I average around 4.5

Scramble the cube, solve the cross blindfolded as fast as you can, re-scramble. If you want to work on cross-f2l transition you can solve the cross while looking for your next f2l pair and sovle it before re-scrambling.

At what point are you considered sub X? Once you have an average of 5? average of 12? or basically just you can pick up any cube and, given 15 seconds of inspection, confidently solve it in less than X seconds every time? I ask because I do a lot of untimed, slow solves to look for new tricks and such, and then every now and then I'll do an average of 12. I just did several 35 second solves (which really dissapointed me) but then after I got warmed up (I guess?) I got a PB ao12 of 29.14 with a 25 second ao5.

At what point are you considered sub X? Once you have an average of 5? average of 12? or basically just you can pick up any cube and, given 15 seconds of inspection, confidently solve it in less than X seconds every time? I ask because I do a lot of untimed, slow solves to look for new tricks and such, and then every now and then I'll do an average of 12. I just did several 35 second solves (which really dissapointed me) but then after I got warmed up (I guess?) I got a PB ao12 of 29.14 with a 25 second ao5.

Probably like 33 seconds, but there would be a high standard deviation. A few 25 second solves in a row, and then a couple 38 second ones. Here is my most recent ao12:
00:32.26
00:34.35
00:28.54
00:23.16
00:30.70
00:23.96
00:23.88
00:29.54
00:26.24
00:30.94
00:30.97
00:34.37

At what point are you considered sub X? Once you have an average of 5? average of 12? or basically just you can pick up any cube and, given 15 seconds of inspection, confidently solve it in less than X seconds every time? I ask because I do a lot of untimed, slow solves to look for new tricks and such, and then every now and then I'll do an average of 12. I just did several 35 second solves (which really dissapointed me) but then after I got warmed up (I guess?) I got a PB ao12 of 29.14 with a 25 second ao5.

I'd say definitely not with just a Ao5 / Ao12 once (I have now a PB Ao5 of 19.82 and I don't consider myself sub-20 at all). But I wouldn't go as far as "every time sub X". You can sometimes have a bad solve well over X or a mistake or a DNF... and still be sub X but your long time average (e.g. Ao1000 - 5000, ...) should be sub X. At least your long averages (Ao50 / 100) should be sub X "most of the time" (e.g. > 90% of the time). That's how I see it.