[Help Thread] OLL and PLL Discussion

[BluezCoolz]

Thank you!

 

[BluezCoolz]

So far i know T, H, Ua, Ub, Z, and Y Perms, what PLL should I learn next?

 

[PiKeeper]

I'd start with the a perms. They have good recognition and are one of the fastest PLLS.

 

[Benjaaa]

someone have a pdf of pll? please

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[LukasCubes]

I hope this works

PLL — Cyotheking

www.cyotheking.com

 

[rubik2005]

I hope this works

PLL — Cyotheking

www.cyotheking.com

https://www.cubeskills.com/uploads/pdf/tutorials/pll-algorithms.pdf

CubeHead PLL 1.1.pdf

drive.google.com

AlgDb

algdb.net

https://jperm.net/algs/pll

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[Haliax]

Hi cube community.

I just started with 2 look OLL and PLL.

There is this 2 look OLL algo that i always mess up.

It is for the T orientation see image below



The algo is as follows r U R' U' r' F R F'

Now i wondered whether it might have something to do with the lower 'r'. I know in a 4x4 a non capital means the one on the inside. But what does it mean in this case? the middle? shouldn't it be called 'M' in that case?

 

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[PCCuber]

It means a wide move, where you move the outer layer and the inner layer. If there is a prime than you would make the move in the direction that the outer layer would usually make. Eg. r' means to turn both the m and r slice down.

 

[Gewoonnegast]

The '' r'' means that you have to do a wide turn, wich is a R and M' move at the same time.

 

[DGCubes]

Note that people will also sometimes write this as Rw - on 3x3 they're used interchangeably, but using a "w" instead of a lowercase letter is the notation used by the WCA.

EDIT: Also for clarification, M actually follows the same direction as L. (So M' and R go in the same direction.)

 

[Megaminx lover]

Hello. I am a cuber which finally reached sub 20 2 months ago. However, I finished learning all the OLL and PLL and am too lazy to learn ZBLL or Roux or anything else. It was at this point that I decided that i should try to improve my PLL algs. This thread is for people to get general advice on which PLLs to use.
Also, I feel like there shoulld be an updated PLL spreadsheet with alternate algs in case other cubers would like them which is why I made a google sheets. (will be added in an update)

Also, which alg do you use for Aa Perm? x R' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2 or l' U R' D2 R U' R' D2 R2?

 

[Waffles]

For Aa I use the L2 D2 alg. I am kind of right hand dominant but can still get 0.8-0.9 on average with that algorithm. I do use a lot of lefty algs (probably about 10-12 lefty olls) but can get the 10 tps required fairly easily with that alg.

I want to know, how fast can you guys get at V Perm? I know zzoomer is sub 1 with every pll but everyone has different algs that they prefer for V perm.

And; F perm. This one will be **controversial** but F Perm is actually one of my preferred PLL’s. easy recog; rotationless and regripless algorithm, can get about 1.2 seconds on it, what’s not to like?

Again, maybe one of the weirder things about me: I like getting G perms and R perms. I’d kind of be prepared to call Rb Perm one of my favourite plls. The only bad G perm is the one that starts with F’ U’ F because of said F’ U’ F.

I’m not new to knowing full pll; I’m not old either, but I’ve had 6 months to be decent at recog and exec.

Edit: me and my friend are making an algorithm sheet which has some alternate plls and olls.

 

[xyzzy]

Also, which alg do you use for Aa Perm? (standard alg) or (the same alg)?

Yes. (More seriously: you just wrote the same alg in two different ways. x R' and Lw are executed identically if you try to do them fast.)

Also, there are many alternative PLL algs available on SpeedCubeDB, some of which don't suck.

 

[ruffleduck]

I want to know, how fast can you guys get at V Perm? I know zzoomer is sub 1 with every pll but everyone has different algs that they prefer for V perm.

And; F perm. This one will be **controversial** but F Perm is actually one of my preferred PLL’s. easy recog; rotationless and regripless algorithm, can get about 1.2 seconds on it, what’s not to like?

I agree. Great recognition, fun alg (the one I use, at least), consistent. Sub 0.9-able

Again, maybe one of the weirder things about me: I like getting G perms and R perms. I’d kind of be prepared to call Rb Perm one of my favourite plls. The only bad G perm is the one that starts with F’ U’ F because of said F’ U’ F.

Yeah G perms are heavily underrated. It gains hate for no clear reason. They're average at worst. Gc is actually one of my favorite PLL's because i have the YTWB because it's fun. As for R perms, they're average imo.

I'm working on a PLL video where I show all my PLL algs and executions. I will share once I'm done making it!

 

[CFOP INC]

If you want to get better I recommend focusing on improving f2l and look ahead. I am sub 20 and only know beginner oll and pll Though I do know some more pll's I am not fast enough with them to use in solves yet.

 

[Megaminx lover]

If you want to get better I recommend focusing on improving f2l and look ahead. I am sub 20 and only know beginner oll and pll Though I do know some more pll's I am not fast enough with them to use in solves yet.

Thanks @CFOP INC for that. Maybe will come back to this thread after I improve my times a bit. (I don't time many of my solves)

Also zzoomer which RUD V Perm is that?

 

[DuckubingCuber347]

Also zzoomer which RUD V Perm is that?

At your age I'd focus on just solving the cube. You can't get very fast when you're 100.

 

[kubesolver]

I'm working on a PLL video where I show all my PLL algs and executions. I will share once I'm done making it!

Please record with 240+fps
Any modern phone can do it. it is not as much fun to see 1 turn per frame.

 

[ruffleduck]

Please record with 240+fps
Any modern phone can do it. it is not as much fun to see 1 turn per frame.

Unfortunately i only have an old samsung, which records at a slow 30 FPS. However, I'll be sure to show the executions slowly and clearly so that you can easily follow.