[Help Thread] OLL and PLL Discussion

[Chinmay47]

R U2 R' sledge U2 sledge and R U R' U sledge U2 sledge very hard to learn.
[R U' R2 D' r : U] and [R U' R2 D' r : U'] very hard to learn.
[R' U2 r U' r' : U2] and [r U r' U2 R : U2] very hard to learn.
[R' F2 R2 U2 R' : F'] and [R' F2 R2 U2 R' : F] very hard to learn.
M R U R' U r U2 r' U M' very hard to learn.

Dots suck, yes, but refusing to learn them is kind of silly imo.

Thanks a lot dude! Feels really helpful!

 

[xyzzy]

Thanks a lot dude! Feels really helpful!

Some of those algs solve the same case, fyi. It's also missing the dot-U and dot-T cases (which I mainly use wide Sune combos for, but there're better algs out there), as well as the dot-oriented case (S R' U' R U R U R U' R' S').

 

[Spacey10]

Some of those algs solve the same case, fyi. It's also missing the dot-U and dot-T cases (which I mainly use wide Sune combos for, but there're better algs out there), as well as the dot-oriented case (S R' U' R U R U R U' R' S').

S moves?! Almost no one uses S moves. My S move takes about .5 seconds and for OH, it takes 10 seconds.

don't bully me

 

[Sub1Hour]

Dots suck, yes, but refusing to learn them is kind of silly imo.

Fool, I am the silliest man that has ever lived!

 

[fun at the joy]

S moves?! Almost no one uses S moves. My S move takes about .5 seconds and for OH, it takes 10 seconds.

don't bully me

S moves are key

 

[teri2769]

S moves are ridiculously good for a lot of OLLs

 

[teri2769]

For the oriented dot case, you can also do S' R U R' S U' M' U R U' r'

 

[MasterMind]

I am trying to learn Oll if Anyone has any good ways to learn please tell thanks

 

[Nmile7300]

If you are sub 40 as your introduction thread says, then you don't need OLL for a long time.

 

[Micah Morrison]

yes, it's also better to learn full PLL first as it's less algs and makes more of a time difference. I would recommend starting with 2 Look Oll and Pll because with those algs you can solve OLL and PLL with a maximum of 2 algs each.

 

[MasterMind]

okay thanks

 

[GPCCORNDOG]

I am trying to learn Oll if Anyone has any good ways to learn please tell thanks

Here is a youtube video that might help. Check it out.

 

[Zubin Park]

Also, my thread "guide to becoming sub-x" can help you. I can also put you on a list for a custom guide if you're looking for guidance or such

 

[MasterMind]

So after learning 2 look Pll and Oll i should start full Oll and Pll right thanks

thank you

 

[Micah Morrison]

So after learning 2 look Pll and Oll i should start full Oll and Pll right thanks

Yes, but you should do full PLL first, also be constantly working on your f2l the whole time.

 

[MasterMind]

Okay I did learn f2l and have been practice f2l for to 1 month

 

[ProStar]

Okay I did learn f2l and have been practice f2l for to 1 month

Always practice F2L. People like Micah and Zubin are sub-10 but they're still learning new tricks and improving their F2L. Learning OLL and PLL are terminal tasks, but the quest to improve F2L is ongoing. Even as you're learning algs, keep working on F2L

 

[s_e_a_n666]

I am trying to learn Oll if Anyone has any good ways to learn please tell thanks

Don't learn OLL yet. It's perfectly possible to be sub 15 with 2 look OLL. Your priority is always F2L and learning full PLL when you're ready. PLL is only 21 algs and they're easy to remember with the right fingertricks. Just make sure you learn good algs from the start. I recommend jperm.net for alg learning.

 

[ProStar]

Don't learn OLL yet. It's perfectly possible to be sub 15 with 2 look OLL. Your priority is always F2L and learning full PLL when you're ready. PLL is only 21 algs and they're easy to remember with the right fingertricks. Just make sure you learn good algs from the start. I recommend jperm.net for alg learning.

It's possible to be sub-10 with LBL, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. I recommend learning starting to learn PLL at around 25-30 seconds and then just jumping into OLL right after you've finished PLL

 

[s_e_a_n666]

It's possible to be sub-10 with LBL, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. I recommend learning starting to learn PLL at around 25-30 seconds and then just jumping into OLL right after you've finished PLL

I'm not sub 15 and I know OLL. OLL isn't too important to know because you can still know individual cases but do 2 look like you know what is gonna come next after you orient the edges. I don't recommend that at all but it is possible.