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I just did ao5 with full OLL/PLL and without. Without PLL/OLL algs I used only T-perm and Ua-perm for PLL and for OLL sune and F(sexy)F'. With algs avg was 20.32 and without 30.98 seconds. Cube: dayan zhanzhi v5 stickerless, 55mm.

I am now using 2look oll and 2look pll and average is around 35-36 with a pb of 24.67......is it time for me to learn full pll??which is the best order for learning those 21 pll's??

I am now using 2look oll and 2look pll and average is around 35-36 with a pb of 24.67......is it time for me to learn full pll??which is the best order for learning those 21 pll's??

Learn the H perm, Z perm and the U perms first. Then learn the Y perm. After that, learn the A perms and the E perm. Next, learn the T perm, J perms, F perm, N perms and R perms. Finally, tackle the G perms.

(Note: This is the order Keanny learned all his PLLs in, so it may not work for you.)

Learn the H perm, Z perm and the U perms first. Then learn the Y perm. After that, learn the A perms and the E perm. Next, learn the T perm, J perms, F perm, N perms and R perms. Finally, tackle the G perms.

(Note: This is the order Keanny learned all his PLLs in, so it may not work for you.)

I am now using 2look oll and 2look pll and average is around 35-36 with a pb of 24.67......is it time for me to learn full pll??which is the best order for learning those 21 pll's??

The 2-look case with the headlights never works for me when I try it. The alg is R2 [D (R U2) R] [D' (R U2 R']. After I try the alg to the case it always looks scrambled.

The 2-look case with the headlights never works for me when I try it. The alg is R2 [D (R U2) R] [D' (R U2 R']. After I try the alg to the case it always looks scrambled.

I just invented a CFOP ZB mashup ...
OLL only has 7 cases if you orient the edges (intuitively) while inserting the last slot. Think sledgehammers and algs like F' U F R U' R' can lead to very fast recognition.

I just invented a CFOP ZB mashup ...
OLL only has 7 cases if you orient the edges (intuitively) while inserting the last slot. Think sledgehammers and algs like F' U F R U' R' can lead to very fast recognition.

It's a reasonably good idea but more or less all the good "low-hanging fruit" has been snapped up by now in some form or another so new stuff tends to be pretty weird (my sig probably demos this pretty well).

Learn 2 look oll and pll before full fridrich.
Knowing how f2l works is a great advantage of figuring out algs yourself.
Using algs you figured out yourself is faster than using pre-invented algorithms.
By these training, you will figure out a trick to memorize algs. Soon you can make it to full fridrich.