[Help Thread] Big Cubes Discussion

[NaeosPsy]

In Yau after i've solved centers and 3 cross dedges. I habitually pair up 6 edges then the remaining 3, are there any disadvantages to this? feels natural for me to do it this way, but wonder why other cubers do it the convensional way which seems to be 2223

I do cross edge + 6 edges + 2 edges. Would like to hear the answer too.

 

[DNFphobia]

How do most people scramble their 4x4? (hand scrambles only)
I tend to scramble it like a 2x2 then move on to the outer layers. Any other possibilities?

 

[ottozing]

Just do random inner/outer/double layer turns. Random hand scrambling doesn't require any fancy teqniques.

 

[Pyjam]

How do most people scramble their 4x4? (hand scrambles only)
I tend to scramble it like a 2x2 then move on to the outer layers. Any other possibilities?

I do this twice for all sizes, because I'm not sure that every position is possible with only one pass.

 

[AHornbaker]

Anybody have tips on how to make 7x7 centers faster? I average just under a minute per

 

[ben1996123]

Anybody have tips on how to make 7x7 centers faster? I average just under a minute per

try 3x3,3x4,4x4,4x5,5x5 instead of 1x5,2x5,3x5,4x5,5x5. or the other way around.

 

[CarlBrannen]

On the 7x7 centers, it may be obvious, but it helped when I eventually figured out that there were two types of center cubies (ignoring the very centers you can't move). Some of them are useful for either wing 1x5 while others can only be used in the far or near position. So in judging which 1x5 to assemble next, I ignore the presence of the shared cubies. Since they're shared, it will be easy to find them.

 

[Riley]

Which of these steps of Yau do I need to improve the most on? I really need to improve on all of them, but I wanted to see which step needs the most improvement.

Here are the splits of a 51 second solve, which is just a tad faster than my average.

First 2 Centers = 3
First 3 Cross Dedges = 6
Last 4 Centers = 6
Last edges (including last cross edge) = 20
3x3 = 16

 

[KCuber]

Which of these steps of Yau do I need to improve the most on? I really need to improve on all of them, but I wanted to see which step needs the most improvement.

Here are the splits of a 51 second solve, which is just a tad faster than my average.

First 2 Centers = 3
First 3 Cross Dedges = 6
Last 4 Centers = 6
Last edges (including last cross edge) = 20
3x3 = 16

Definitely the last edges

 

[mitch1234]

I'm having some trouble breaking the sub-4 mark for 7x7 single, I've gotten plenty of 4 flats, 4:01's, etc... But I noticed that the main thing holding me back is my edges. Most of the time my centers will take 1:59ish then I get to edges and I'll finish that at about 4 flat, then 3x3. Is there anything that can help me speed up my edges so that they are in the 1:45 range, any help is appreciated.

 

[emolover]

I'm having some trouble breaking the sub-4 mark for 7x7 single, I've gotten plenty of 4 flats, 4:01's, etc... But I noticed that the main thing holding me back is my edges. Most of the time my centers will take 1:59ish then I get to edges and I'll finish that at about 4 flat, then 3x3. Is there anything that can help me speed up my edges so that they are in the 1:45 range, any help is appreciated.

Although you are 30+ seconds better than me, I would suggest trying to go for all white edges first, yellow edges second, and other edges last. Doing some 8x8 might help too.

 

[mitch1234]

Although you are 30+ seconds better than me, I would suggest trying to go for all white edges first, yellow edges second, and other edges last. Doing some 8x8 might help too.

I used to do a lot of 8x8, I didn't gain much from it though, I hope that if I get the ss 9x9 it will help a lot because there are much more pieces to keep track of. And I really can't do that, it would be too much work to try and switch.

 

[emolover]

I used to do a lot of 8x8, I didn't gain much from it though, I hope that if I get the ss 9x9 it will help a lot because there are much more pieces to keep track of. And I really can't do that, it would be too much work to try and switch.

What was your best 8x8 solve, MO3, and any other averages you did?

Best: 8:06
MO3: 8:20

 

[mitch1234]

7:32.464 single, 8:02.901 mo3, 8:15.833 avg of 5, I got reallt bored of it though.

 

[Xishem]

How can I freestyle 2-cycles (in K4)?

I run into cases like UFl -> URb, where I don't have an alg for it, but I don't want to do a 3-move setup into the one that I know (UFl -> BFl). Do people freestyle 2-cycles, or just learn all the cases?

 

[Maccoboy]

has anyone here owned a x-cube 7x7? i just ordered the stickerless version from 51morefun.com as it was only £14 ish and am curious if anyone else has one and what its like?

thanks

 

[JianhanC]

has anyone here owned a x-cube 7x7? i just ordered the stickerless version from 51morefun.com as it was only £14 ish and am curious if anyone else has one and what its like?

thanks

It wasn't very popular. For £14 you could've ordered the Shengshou 7x7. The X-Cube 4x4 has been known to be a bit poppy though, not sure if it applies to the 7x7 as well. The Shengshou 7x7 however rarely pops, and it only does if you try to cut too much, and pieces will lockup and pop. But it snaps back into place easily with a few taps though.

 

[qqwref]

I am pretty sure that the "X-Cube 7" on 51morefun is just a counterfeit copy of the V-Cube. It's not the same brand as the X-Cube 4x4 which was a totally new mechanism idea. The X-Cube 4x4 had an idea for a prototype 7x7 but it was going to be cubical and with equally sized layers - not at all the same as a random cheap V-Cube copy.

 

[F perm]

For the 6x6, I don't understand how to pair the last two edges. I did search for it, on the forum and the web, and nothing useful came up. I'm using OBLBL, so a 5x5x6 block is already formed, and if there is a way to pair the L2E preserving that block, I want to use that.
Thank you!

 

[AHornbaker]

Was toying around with my 4x4 on a vacation recently and found a (relatively) useful way to speed up edge pairing. After solving for the centers, i'd put four edge pieces with the white side facing up on the M slice, then rotate either Ll or Rr to match them up. After matching a pair i'd replace it with another white piece facing up, then do the same thing for all yellow edge pieces, then after the L and R layers are filled with white and yellow pairs i'd match up the last four pairs like a noob. Seems kinda dumb but it makes it: 1.) much easier to find edge pieces by isolating a color 2.) orients edge pieces so they can be matched easier 3.) makes a beginner much faster by speeding up edge pairing without bursting blood vessels trying to find a certain piece. I'm not fast with the 4x4 b/c i only pull it out once in a blue moon but i figure this might be useful to somebody (although im sure people who are actually fast have discovered this long ago) Still, it got me from ~2:30-3:00 down to sub-2:00 in all of half an hour.

BTW anybody have a better way to pair the last four edges?
AND can someone give me a quick explanation of the yau method? (i want to step up my 4x4 skills)